Description of Raymond Karczewski by Government.Media Disinf - Description of Raymond Karczewski by Government.Media Disinformation Agent Ed Wilkinson Regarding at 1997 Grants Pass Picnic Meeting Ed Wilkinson, responsible for a number of the "anonymous" attacks on this page (marked with ***), current res

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:22 pm

Description of Raymond Karczewski by Government.Media Disinformation Agent Ed Wilkinson Regarding at 1997 Grants Pass Picnic Meeting

Ed Wilkinson, responsible for a number of the "anonymous" attacks on this page (marked with ***), current resident of Illinois Valley, OR, former Grants Pass Business man, former Arms Dealer, Member of Republican Party Central Committee, known as nope@nospam.com, dgtlarts@cdsnet.net, also known as Mr. Ed, aka Sir Ed, aka Oregon Ed, aka Ray Kargoofy, aka (LIghtColonel Meepzorp-Bazza, SAIC), aka Raymond Karscrewloose, aka Agent Sir Ed wrote:

Date: 1997/05/31

ed: I've been reluctant to post much about it because he lives in my town and I don't want to get into a pissing contest with him, plus, he is a charming, witty person in person, and my natural reluctance to offend someone I've broken bread with is making me hesitate, but, here goes...

ed: "Ray is immensely sure of himself. NOTHING can sway him. NOTHING. I brought up many valid points arguing against his theses, and he acknowledged not ONE!

ed: He's huge. 6 foot 3 or something, fat, but the kind of fat you see on bikers, underladen with layers of muscle.

ed: He's an ex-cop from San Fran. who retired on disability. I don't know why, but a friend of mine told me it's 'cause he thinks he was shot.

ed: He's got scars all over him, a nose that looks like it's been broken several times, and he looks mostly like an ex-biker or ex-heavyweight boxer. (Which he was. He won a bunch o' titles in the service.) He lifts weights, and he definitely looks like he could tear a Doug Fir down without too much trouble.

ed: He is so self-confident that he actually goes beyond arrogant. Several times, he told me there was no such thing as the Devil, it's merely man's focusing of dissonant energy. Well, I told him that I have personal experience that there is such a thing as the Devil, and he said "that's your perception." So, I said, "Well, that is your perception that my perception is wrong," and he responded "No, for I'm confined by no labels or illusions. The power of the infinite flows through me and everything that I see is the untrammelled reality, undistorted by any emotion or flaw."

ed: He has a very good sense of humor. I tend to crack jokes and puns constantly and he kept up the repartee, going toe-to-toe with me.

ed: At one point, he was leaning forward, eyes fiercely blazing at me, telling me how everything I see is simply a misperceived perception shell, and he said "You MUST let the power of the infinite move you, to see Maya." Then, he stopped and asked pedantically "You DO know what Maya is, do you not?" And I replied "Yeah...she's a black poet who read at Clinton's inaguration."

ed: Well, he was taken aback for a moment, then he burst out laughing, slapped his knee, said "Maya! A black poet! Ha ha!!" etc., then he slapped my knee and said "You're all right, Ed" even though it was plainly obvious I had said that to jolt him from his self-absorption.

ed: My summation of Ray? He's stark, raving bonkers, but he is definitively his own man.

ed: I know when I speak with people if they are just robots or not, and he is not. Ray was able to respond with spontaneous reams and reams of exegesis with my every comment. I know that he genuinely believes this stuff, and it IS coming from some source external to himself, so...he is no phony BS'er, or would-be Jim Jones. (Although I think he would like to be a would-be Roy Masters. I think he's jealous of Roy, although he admits to no human weaknesses.)

ed: Basically, he sees himself as the locus of "the power of the infinite," and believes that it is his job to wake people up from their deceived minds.

ed: I think he's a total nutcase, but I enjoyed the picnic. He's got an incredibly quick mind, very facile, and I was in my element, as I, too, love to debate furiously!

jm: What did you sense about his emotional tone. Any love there?

ed: Absolute, stone-cold assurance that what he, and he alone, sees, is the truth. He TRULY believes that "The power of the infinite flows through [me]."

ed: A very strange kind of love, like you'd get from a psycopathic cult leader. Where his presence is all-embracing, his eyes are fixed and staring, and seem to blaze, and he tries to envelop you in his persona. But, if you don't agree with him, you feel damned.

ed: Very strange, very powerful, pulsating kind of individual. I got the feeling, as I rode my bike away from the picnic, that his aura (VERY powerful) was chasing after me and trying to envelope me.

ed: He has a very good sense of humor. I tend to crack jokes and puns constantly and he kept up the repartee.

jm: That's interesting. Who would have thunk it from this newsgroup stuff?

ed: Yeah, he was actually nothing like what I had pictured him.

ed: In person, he does have incredible charisma, and he could easily become a cult leader.

Raymond Ronald Karczewski©