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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:05 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Beyond Belief

asterion wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:

Aug. 25, 2008 02:51:29 PM »

a: > I believe that anyone has the right to hold a belief. Whether these beliefs be of atheist, religious, scientific, natural, spiritual, or whatever other nature.

rk: Belief is illusion. Belief of Truth is still an illusion. Satanically conditioned minions are bound by belief, despite its positive imagery. One has to look at the outcome of such positive Imaged beliefs which separate people. Hell, isn't it?

a: > I also believe that people should have the freedom to blend together these beliefs (if it suits them), after all, is any one dogma the one & only correct one?

rk: Such is the nature of "free choice." All have the right to chose hell, (which the majority of sheeple do)

a: > Who knows? Could be we're staring at a part-finished jigsaw with 50% of the pieces in the wrong places.

rk: No "could be" about it. Look at the headlines, observe the state of hell on earth caused by vicious satanists buttressed by masses of blind-believing schnooks and you will see how and why the "road to hell is paved with good intentions."

a: > I object to people, sometimes pseudo-intellectuals, who believe that their belief is the only true one & all others don't count; the... "There is only one true path & it is mine!" &... "My God is better than your god (if you have one or not!)" &... "You will be damned by the Devils of my belief & go to that very same hell if you don't believe what I preach to you" approach - you may know what I mean.

rk: In our last communication on this forum after withering under the reflection of the Mirror of Truth, you said, and I quote: "No further posts from me, here. Good-bye." Now you turn up elsewhere on this forum and continue asserting opinions about that which you have no understanding. Whats up with that?

a: > These people, by their very nature, are lacking something. I'm not a psychologist, psychiatrist or theologian but, I do feel that they have an inherent problem. Correct me if I'm wrong.

rk: No, you're just ignorant of the spiritual content which has been presented to you and you resent it because you have been exposed to your spiritual limitations and your feelings have been hurt. Either that or you are a disinformation agent just doing your job.

a: > Apart from everything being natural & the human brain frantically trying to discover its 'raison d'ętre' to justify itself, I think, that if there is a True Path - "the Belief of Beliefs", it doesn't lie soley within one specific way of thought; a fusion of many, both known & still unknown to humankind, maybe. We do not, & may never know the answer.

rk: Spiritually sighted men and women, Christs will resonate with understanding. Satanic conditioned Blind Believing ignoramuses will never come to the answer for they pridefully block their own way with such limiting, divisive beliefs.

a: > Spiritual/religious belief will never live happily alongside politics,

rk: The culprit is "belief" in spirituality or politics which divides. I have no beliefs. That is incomprehensible to blind believers as they have spiritually limited themselves from the simple Truth, just as you have, and continue to do. Isn't it time to OPEN YOUR EYES, WAKE UP, and look around at the hell you so pridefully support?

a: > the world doesn't learn its lessons very easily; burning heretics at the stake, conquistadores, N.Ireland, & the Middle East to name but a few, past & present.

rk: Those people ARE YOU! Does that come as a surprise to you?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:41 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Beyond Belief

asterion wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote

a: >> Beginning of Quote from: Ray on August 25, 2008, 07:58:34 PM
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a: > I object to people, sometimes pseudo-intellectuals, who believe that their belief is the only true one & all others don't count; the... "There is only one true path & it is mine!" &... "My God is better than your god (if you have one or not!)" &... "You will be damned by the Devils of my belief & go to that very same hell if you don't believe what I preach to you" approach - you may know what I mean.

rk: In our last communication on this forum after withering under the reflection of the Mirror of Truth, you said, and I quote: "No further posts from me, here. Good-bye." Now you turn up elsewhere on this forum and continue asserting opinions about that which you have no understanding. Whats up with that?

a: > These people, by their very nature, are lacking something. I'm not a psychologist, psychiatrist or theologian but, I do feel that they have an inherent problem. Correct me if I'm wrong.

rk: No, you're just ignorant of the spiritual content which has been presented to you and you resent it because you have been exposed to your spiritual limitations and your feelings have been hurt. Either that or you are a disinformation agent just doing your job.

Raymond Ronald Karczewski©

a: >> end of quote:
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a: > Ah, the contented man who's happy because the state allowed him to place a '©' on the end of his name (very posh) - hello again, my friend, how are you? Sold many cassettes via your web site recently? I see you're still hurling the insults around... how spiritually enlightening! We really should stop meeting like this!

rk: and you continue to slither about like a treacherous disinformation snake, fork-tongueing your way through a face-saving, say nothing response to what I have said. .This in view of your earlier comments. "No further posts from me, here. Good-bye." Whats up with that?

a: > Are you ready now to prove your Truth is the only Truth? (or will you be playing your evasive, tiresome, wordy games again - as per usual?).

rk: In your time-bound, satanically conditioned intellectual ignorance, you show that you are blind believer of concepts, and therefore are oblivious to the simple fact that Truth is a living, holistic energy. It cannot be proven through compartmentalized, dead theories, Truth can only be seen in the "moment of Truth" by an Eyes Wide Open, aware living, breathing, flesh-and-blood, sentient, natural men or women. .


rk: When it comes to the living dead, i.e., remotely programmable automatons who have no direct experience of life, , only the dead aftermoment "idea" of Truth is subject to the satanic manipulative tool of proof.

rk: Have you not seen be now that that is why you shall never touch the nondualistic hem of this Christ with your peripheral satanic dualistic debate tactics". You shall only lay your soul bare until you once again run away from the pain of exposure while crying: "No further posts from me, here. Good-bye."

a: > You seem to have a problem with people having their own opinions (Zionists are like that!); must one have to have aquired a doctorate before they qualify to post on a forum?

rk: I have no problems with the opinions of others. I merely point out that such counterfeit dualistic beliefs are impotent when exposed by nondualistic Truth. People who base their lives on their own conditioned opinions live a counterfeit existence, a lie. . As such they are slavishly bound by the rules of Satanic Illusion. Hell, isn't it?

a: > You post about the 'Truth' but, you seem to know absolutely nothing about it..

rk: Such is an empty opinion. Where is the substance to back up such a statement. You deal in empty words as do most satanic manipulators.

rk: Even apes can be trained to operate a keyboard. That doesn't mean they have the Intelligence to understand what they are typing.
That is where most of the internet input by trained idiots can be classified.

a: > not enough to justify its existence, anyway. The difference between us is that I respect & learn from the comments of others whilst you ignore what they say & preach to them your possible 'Truth' (remember my last but one quote for you?). Which brings me around to...

rk: So where is the conflict with that? I can spot word manipulating BS'ers when they seek to ply their satanic trade and I mirror their spiritual impotence back to them right on the spot -- Just like I have just done with your comments here and now. That is the effectiveness a Christ, a simple man or woman of Truth has over treacherous mind-controlling, disinformation agents who slither about on Internet groups and forums plying their trade.

a: > & I love this part of the post, Ray©...

a: > The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. Bertrand Russell

a: > ' suppose this Nobel Prize winner was a Bassackward nobody, too?

rk: You said it, not me!

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:04 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Re: Beyond Belief

asterion wrote:

Raven wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:

a: >> You're doing it again, Ray©! You answer statements (in your own way)

rk: What other way would man of Truth answer?

a: >> but, there is always one answer which is conspicuous by its absence, this time it's... Sold many cassettes via your web site recently?

rk: I never provide info to others who have nothing to say of their own and require the twisting and distorting of another's energy to be used as a pointless attack . You disinfo folks are vampires. Being members of the Living Dead, you are required to feed off the life energy of others as you are exposed as lifeless programmable reactionary automatons. In other words, your not much more than "Artificial Intelligence."

a: >> You failed to pull me up on that one! Why? Do they contain your 'Truth'?

rk: Why don't you purchase the source of information you are salivating at the mouth to attack. Fact is you have declared war on truth and you've come to it "shooting blanks", haven't you?. Not too smart, is it?

a: >> & why does a simple man, with the 'Truth' that others aren't privy to, bother with a hell-bound, Satanic, Bassackward no-hoper like me?

rk: You serve the purpose of being a poster child for any and all satanically programmed, thin skinned, reactionary, prideful, say-nothing ignoramuses. It allow other likeminded ignoramuses to see themselves in you, and therefore give them an apportunity to change.

r: > raven Quote asterion
& why does a simple man, with the 'Truth' that others aren't privy to, bother with a hell-bound, Satanic, Bassackward no-hoper like me?

r: > You know what would be reflected in that "mirror of truth" if Ray were to stand in front of it? A pompous, arrogant, egotistical, self righteous blow hard who seeks validation by engaging those willing to buy his bullshit.

rk: Ah! Enter a new anonymous, cowardly disinformation attacker who comes to the aide of his flailing cohort, postures and poses with strong language, but does it while cowering under the cowardly cover of anonymity. This behavior is quite typical and can be observed in 13 years of google archives archives and my weblink page: MEDIA MIND CONTROL , DISINFORMATION AND ATTACKS http://www.arkenterprises.com/disinfo.html

r: > Yes, Ill call it like it is. Anyone that can claim he is a christ and everyone else is ignorant and satanically influenced is either a moron or has his own head shoved up his ass.

rk: Such intelligent responses, Do both of you see how silly you both look trying to make the case that I am attacking you? The viciousness that is experienced in these communication is the reflection of your own actions by the Mirror of Truth. Mirrors don't attack. They reflect.

r: > He DOES have beliefs. He just won't admit it. Satanic and christ; Christian terms but I bet he doesn't believe in the scriptures.

rk: I have NO beliefs. I SEE Truth everywhere I look. In the instant, I see the truth of two satanically serving ignoramuses attempting to salvage their defamation campaign gone haywire.

r: > Asterion, mature and wise people can have religious discussions in a civil and cordial manner as you have tried to do.

rk: raven you came out of the chute exposing your intent without the snake venomed seduction of asterion. We've never talk to each other, at least under your present handle as "raven". Yet you seem to have a problem with me. Your violent outbursts becomes "curiouser and curiouser." It reveals you have an agenda.

r: > This is not a waste of time for him, he thrives on insulting others and exalting himself.

rk: I insult no one. I don't need to exalt myself. I am who I say I am. I AM THAT I AM. I merely ACCURATELY reflect the "unholy" essence of satanic delivered words back to spiritually crippled, codependent, hell-bound hypocrites who usually hide behind positive images when manipulating other ignorant sheeple who have lost their ability to perceive Truth

r: > It is a waste of time for you and others who are more mature in their spiritual views.

rk: raven, "your coming out of the chute" contribution in this article: : "You know what would be reflected in that "mirror of truth" if Ray were to stand in front of it? A pompous, arrogant, egotistical, self righteous blow hard who seeks validation by engaging those willing to buy his bullshit" reflects your style of Spirituality. Hell, isn't it?

r: > Ray, I already know what kind of drivel you are going to type. Dealt with a few just like you. Don't bother.

rk: Do you see how impotent you really are? Here I am typing? Do you expect to take such pre-emptive vicious attacks with one you've never communicated with and not BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

rk: You will note, that is if you have read anything on my website, http://www.arkenterprises.com that a simple man of Truth, A Christ is a mirror of Truth which holds all satanic minions ACCOUNTABLE for their words and actions, be it at the level of satanic minions, to satanic Leaders of Government and Religions.

r: > This needs to be repeated often around those like you who insult others:I may respect your right to have an opinion, But not your opinion.

rk: There you go again. Now review this communication and see just how bereft of substance yours, and asterion's comments truly are.

rk: Therein lies your panic when you understand just how dumb you are to be arguing with a Mirror. Mirrors don't argue, THEY REFLECT!


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