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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:34 pm Reply with quote Back to top

However.... as you all know... this website... is ruled by MAIDMARION...

AND SHE... seems to hate me.... (even though I find her very stimulating...)
SHE THINKS.......
Im a goverment agent.
IM a nazi....
Im a jew...
Im an idiot..
Im a twerp..
and that she honestly beleives im here to distract people.

I am not...

But I cannot convince her of anything... and almost everyday... she demands that I leave and go away...

and since... in reality... she is the only real active member... and since she hates me...
and since she wants me to leave....
and since it is not possible to argue with her... since she wont allow it...

then... in truth... there is no point in staying at this website.

She rules with a iron fist... and she wants me to leave.

so... i will now leave

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First of all .................I find it extremely arrogant for someone to tell another "how they feel." How the hell would Mosheh know how I feel?

I feel he is pathetic. Also at the time he was coming on strong was during the Freedom Three's Trial and I felt that he was and has been here to try and entrap and gather information. Go all the way back if you care to and re read everyone's posts. I did consistently go after him because he is a disinformation agent...............will probably do the same given the same set of circumstanced with any other disinformation agent who shows up here. So Mosheh shouldn't feel all that special.

With the trial going on ..............this site was particularly vulnerable! We were/are being watched.................but that does not mean I will give up my first amendment right to any of these thugs/bullies! They can go straight to hell as far as I am concerned!

I do believe that Mosheh mindset is part of the Fascist/Nazi turn that this administration and the neocons have espoused. Their total and complete support of Israel, without any objectivity is beyond president and leaves one to wonder what that agenda is all about. Laughing

I feel that his sentiments are Zionist...............(not Jewish like he stated which is a big difference) ..............and he even had that in one of his Names here Mosheh_The Zion!

After he had the nerve to call me a dumb-ass .................I did call him a twerp. That seemed then apropos and it does now! It was much more civil than some of the names that came to mind ...................however I do not believe in name calling when one is trying to have some sort of a dialogue. With Mosheh that was impossible for me!..................Guess the devil made me do it!!!!!

I do and did want him to leave. He need not take that personally............I feel that way about all government agent disinformation/distraction agents who come here on this site!

Yes I do post a lot and I have asked for and encouraged people who are browsing on the site to join in.......................but they do not! It is not because I want to spend this much time here but since the site is up and running .............if something I post makes just one person start to question what in the name of God has happened to their country and motivates them to take some kind of action..........then it is worthwhile!

Please, post you guys,.................we need help to get this country back on the foundation by which it was formed................a Constitutional Republic!

Mosheh said he would leave..........................but has been on the site (without posting) for at least two hours!!!!! We are not rid of him Yet!!!!!! We can only hope!!!

Bye Bye Mosheh Laughing Twisted Evil Laughing !!!!!
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:33 pm Reply with quote Back to top

It's easy to get on here and attack other people, but that is not a contribution to this site. I've seen some sites that literally make me sick. It's hard to believe that many Americans are just outright stupid and foolish.

I have attended this site numerous times in the past. In my opinion, no one has contributed more than MaidMarion. She has been faithful and has put a lot of work into this site. She does a lot of research.

I understand her anger, and yet, I see her commitment. This nation would be a lot better off if there were those who had half the heart that she has.

Most people are wrapped up in the cares of this life. They won't take time for God and country. They like foolish games, school activities, and other wasteful bullshit.

Instead of Americans being the salt of the earth, they are the "sugarcandy". Salt irritates, it stings, and it burns as does the TRUTH. The followers of Jesus weren't martyred for "tickling people's ears" and giving kisses "flattering words." The "whore" the harlot does that. The scripture says, "faithful are the wounds of a friend, but the kisses of the enemy are deceitful." Friends tell you the truth at any cost. A harlot tells you what you want to hear.

America has become a nation of whores who sell themselves and their country for their own selfish gain. Like Judas, they will eventually hang themselves.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:50 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks Rella and it is great to have you posting. Maybe now I will take a break and hope that a whole bunch of others will post and get involved.

There are all kinds of wonderful things happening and the country is turning around too!!!

Remember there are millions of us and only a few thousand of the neocon/globalist types!

It took us decaded to get to this mess and will take us decades to take the country back. They will fight us tooth and nail. The main thing is to run for office a the local level and get a good base! I hope to live long enough to see a true Constitutionalist republic elected again in the country and a Constitutionalist as president.

Monarchies and tyrants have been overthrown before and they will be again. One of the strongest desires in mankinds' heart is to be free.

Government By the People, For the People and Of the People!

We will win because failure is not an option!
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I know that this is not an exact quote, and I don't remember who said it.

It's something like, "Truth when crushed to the earth will rise again, but it always takes it's time in doing so, and mischief can get into a lot of trouble. Therefore, all good men (and women) should labor to keep truth on its feet."
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:17 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I think it would be appropriate to ask everyone who reads these postings to make a special effort to inform our military as to what is going on. We all know many people in the police depts, military, etc.


We need to reach someone everyday!

Jesus said, "You shall know the Truth and the Truth will make you free."

America has not been free for decades.

I hope that will people will research the difference in "allodial" property which is what we had in the beginning, and then compare that to what we have now, a "warranty" "mortgage" deed.

Please understand that "Freemen" do not pay tribute. Only slaves pay tribute.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:25 pm Reply with quote Back to top

MaidMarion:
I'm sure there are a lot of times that you feel somewhat alone, but you know I just looked at the number of visitors to this site and there are 117. Just think about how many people actually read your postings.

Evidently, you have something to offer, or they would not be here to read these postings.

Don't forget, God has a remnant.

I've had a hard time in my life thinking about those who don't do anything to change things. When God puts pressure on me, I often start blaming others because things are not changing, and I remember:

I think it was Peter that Jesus told to go and do something, and he looked around and said, "What about so and so?" (one of the other disciples)

Jesus said, "What's that to you? You follow me!"

We have to do what God has called us to do even when it seems that we're walking a lonely path.

God bless you always!
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:36 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Rella, I swear to you that after your two supportive remarks, I feel I can go on for another year or two! Laughing

JD-Spydo was so happy to have you back here .................he pmed me to make sure I saw that you were here and posting!!

Most times before I start to post or copy and paste ...................I just say a silent little prayer to our Creator and ask him to post what needs to be posted. After all we are trying to create our constitutional republic back even better than the first time and God will surely help us if we only ask! That is a truth that I do know exists here..................I have experienced it over and over again.

Just your showing up Rella, was an answer to a silent prayer! I also ask daily that Ed and Elaine be released and receive justice! I know that too will come about but it will be on God's time. Who knows how many people Ed and Elaine and the others are touching in those horrible prisons!

You know ................he does act up sometime!!!!! Well maybe these are the times when I just allow my will to run riot!!! Have to watch that and continue to ask for direction.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:55 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I quote a lot of scriptures, but they're encouragement to me, and I believe that they are relevant to all circumstances.

We're told to "reprove, rebuke, and exhort with all long-suffering."

It's easy to exhort others. It's more difficult to reprove, and rebuke.

I understand why you suffer, but Jesus said, "If you suffer with me, you'll reign with me."

"Rejoice when you're persecuted for righteousness sake." That's often hard to do.

Those who don't suffer; don't have a thing to rejoice over.

I hope to get back to this site on a regular basis.

"If we put our hand to the plow, and turn back, we're not fit for the Kingdom of Heaven."
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:46 am Reply with quote Back to top

The TRUTH>> what an interesting concept for a country that for many years has happily accepted lies and deceit. And while a sheepish and cowhering people accept these lies it becomes so easy to implement tyranny. I find it so appalling that when I confront people with the raw truth about the evil that this country's government now embraces and proclaims. The few who do admit that I am right very sheepishly say stuff like "Well I don't want to be put on a list" or "I'm afraid that they will take what I have worked hard for" or the ultimate of cowardice "We need to just go along to get along">> And I've heard these excuses given to me by Doctors, Attorneys, Financial Planners and many other professionals who are in positions to greatly help to effect change. But little do they know that they are in chains of slavery even more so than a man wearing leg irons. Because the entire financial system of this country is designed to keep people gagged and bound and cooperative and to chase that golden carrot dangling in front of them that they will never get their hands on. The IRS is nothing but a sophisticated control mechanism. It has nothing to do with raising revenue. But even billionaires are extremely fearful of them.

Charles Manson without a doubt is probably one of the most evil people this century has ever produced. However as Maidmarion knows I've been doing some research on him and his so-called family here in the last few months. One answer that Manson gave to an interviewer who asked him about "MONEY" really blew me away. He said "That he once had all the money in the world but he soon discovered that was a bigger jail than the one he's in now". How profound for a total loser to see the truth behind the worship of money. Because a person's LOVE of money in many cases is what makes them apprehensive and fearful and completely prevents them from taking a stand. A person's money is probably the most deceitful, false form of security ever perpetrated on mankind.

Money is a necessary tool to travel the "road of life". No argument here at all about that. However with money now taking the place of GOD in most people's lives is the sole reason why this country may be going down for the count. Because when you have a tyrannical government like we have now you really don't own anything per se when it comes down to the bottom line. I don't care if you have 50 billion dollars. They can and will steal it from you if you were to take a stand for the truth. Because the evil people now in control know in their hearts that the truth is our greatest weapon. Which is why they are going to extreme measures to silence those who are telling the truth. The TRUTH can and will destroy their plans to implement a total tyranny. Which is why they do everything in their power to hide it. That's why Ed & Elaine scared them so much. That's why they are pulling out all of the stops to jail and demonize anyone who questions the current tax system. Everyone who can think past first base knows that these tax laws are a scam and are a total deviation from the Constitutional Republic that our founding fathers left us.

Just remember the entire trap is set with a very sophisticated bait>> THE LOVE OF MONEY and as long as they have willing and cooperative participants they will have relentless control. But the TRUTH can set us free that is if we as a nation are willing to take a stand.

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There is a very wealthy lawyer who lives close by. He has millions upon millions of dollars.

He's not greedy when it comes to his toys and the foolish things that he wants. He spends money like it is going out of style.

However, he is selfish with the people who work for him. Tight as a wedge! He thinks that his money gives him power over the people that he employs.

He was recently proven wrong.

How foolish will he feel when the government takes his millions, and he has to beg for food from a stranger? Maybe then, he will appreciate the fact that God blessed him so that he could bless others, and he became selfish.

I think there's a scripture that says, "he who had little, had no lack" and "he that had much had none to spare."

JD - the people that won't speak out will regret that day when their children and grandchildren become enslaved to a totalitarian government. When they have no property, no freedom, no hope. When their children are ripped from them and taken away.

Listen up all cowards, the Bible says, "Work while it is day, for the darkness comes when no man can work." It is fastly approaching the "midnight" hour.

Jesus said, "If you love this life, you'll lose it, and if you lose this life, for My sake, you will find it." Another scripture says, that the "FEARFUL" WILL HAVE THEIR PLACE in the lake of fire."

How about taking the plunge.? This world has very little to offer you if you don't have peace and freedom for those you love. You should get involved! "There's strength in numbers."


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Rella if you've listened to Alex Jones here recently you will know for a fact that people are already getting their children ripped away from them via "Child Protective Services". These scumwads have IRS type powers and can take away children without even having any factual evidence to prove that the parents aren't fit.

I remember about 12 years ago a really smart lady named Brenda Scott wrote a book about Child Protective Services and their "nazi" type tactics. Her book was entitled "Out Of Control". It was even getting bad back then but it has exponentially gotten worse since then. All it takes is a busybody, malcontent neighbor to call and report you for alledged child abuse and they will come and grab your kid for no reason other than that. They don't even need a court conviction or any due process.

I've even tried to talk to people who have sons and daughters in the armed services. And it just blows me away when they defend this GOD-less, sinister, totalitarian government over their own kid. And there are many brainwashed people who deem the government as a god.

But trust me they are already doing some of the stuff you write about. You ain't seen nothing yet>> unfortunately.>> JD

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I know that many people are losing their children.

I think sometimes that many people think that it can't happen to them. As long as they "cow down" and say yes master, they think they're immune.
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Believe me Rella it saddens me but it actually angers me more than just about anything knowing what this sicko government is now doing to kids. The one problem that I do find even worse than the heavy handed tactics of CPS, IRS, DEA and all the other government pedophile/tyrant organizations is that most local authorities just blink and look the other way. And all of the aforementioned government goon squads have one thing in common. They all make victims out of decent citizens who are unfortunate enough to be snared in this super sick system.

If you want confirmation that the groundwork for these tyrannical, cesspool organizations was laid down many years ago just do some serious reading on J. Edgar Hoover. I spent some hours 2 nights ago on a very interesting website>> www.thelawparty.com. The dope they have on Hoover is nothing short of an abomination. It's so bad that I didn't think it would have been possible in that era. And there are just way too many reliable witnesses to back it up. Government sanctioned pedophiles are nothing new as you will discover when you read about Mr. Hoover and his closest goon friends.

And all those other government alphabet soup scum fraternities have been doing this crap for years. Also read "The FRanklin Cover-Up" by John DeCamp. Some of these jerks even make Charles Manson look reasonable by comparison.

Molesting kids is a varsity sport to these goons.

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JD - I will go the the web site and read about Hoover and his lowlife buddies.

I don't have high speed internet, and I miss out on a lot of clips and movies, but I do read.

Isn't it so sad that most Americans never seek information for themselves? They're spoon fed by the public fool system and the mass media, and "GOVERNMENTS LIE".

Did you listen to the entire sermon of Reverend Wright? It was the whole truth. I thought, thank God for a preacher that has the guts to stand up and speak the truth.

Governments lie. Governments lie. Governments lie.
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You know Rella I watched Wright at the Press Club that had everyone in a twitter...................and like you I thought .....................so what is the brouhaha all about. Everything the man had to say was true.............and he was not acting like some pathetic slave. He was speaking up like a man of God for his own people.

Frankly I was very disappointed with Obama's distancing himself from his preacher. I lost respect for obama.

Wright was feisty and also funny in his delivery...............how sad that we have gone so far to the right that we can not discuss anything any more.

The four of us who are on posting now probably have many things we do not perceive the same way..................the one thing that unites us is the truth. The next is the ability to keep an open mind and know that there is no way we can have the factual information on everything. Then when it shows up at our doorstep...............we can at least discuss it and incorporate it into our truth.
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Obama really showed his makeup on this one. If he were a true American, he would have stood by his Pastor who spoke the TRUTH. I also was disappointed with him.

The Old Testaments mentions "Eunuchs". These were castrated slaves. Personally, I think that most preachers in America have been castrated by their 501-C3 licensing.

Reverend Wright let it be known that he knows how to "read". He is not spoonfed by the mass media.


When I heard his sermon, it made me want to shout!
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Don't you mean the American Culture has gone too far to the left? Political Correctness is a result of Liberalism. On the other hand, this site is an example of the Extreme Right, as most of the posts demonstrate.
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I agree with both of you. I have a ton of respect for Rev. Wright. The way Obama turned on this guy is truly representative of exactly what kind of man you will get if he gets elected president ( GOD forbid).

I may not agree completely with Rev Wright because I heard that he is very "anti-gun" which I think is a horrible position to take at this time. But I'll give him the benefit of the doubt because a lot of people unfortunately have not been properly educated in that area of Constitutional Rights.

But I do believe that Rev Wright is who he says he is and I can respect anyone who is not a double talking hypocrite. I also deeply respect how he stood up against these goons in the mainstream media and he did not waver at all with his position. I would even go to his church and gladly listen to one of his sermons. Because I do agree with you Maidmarion that he is truly a good man of GOD. That's why Obama didn't stand with him. Because Obama has shown himself to be a completely counterfeit person all together. GOD Bless Reverend Wright. He has my vote!!

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I have deep convictions about what I believe, but so does everyone else on this site.

Extreme or not! Reverend Wright spoke the TRUTH.
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Reverend Wright mentions "Horowitz's book" Emerging Viruses, Aids, and Ebola. Later, I heard Len Horowitz on The Power Hour, and he told Joyce and Dave that he thought that Reverend Wright may have been listening to The Power Hour.

Rev. Wright is seeking truth, and he may soon find out why the government wants to take everyone's guns.

I wonder if Reverend Wright knows that the 1968 American gun control law is worded exactly as the German gun control act issued by Adolph Hitler?

I thank God for Dave and Joyce. Too bad that these people don't have TV shows along with talk radio.
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Thank you kindly for your input whtwtrdood.

However I have been a middle of the road person most of my adult life politically.

Right now on this site I do not feel that any of us really give a dam about whether we are conservative, liberal, central, or whatever!

We realize that we have no say about what is going on in government and that affects all of us. We all seem to be united against the New World Order, getting rid of the IRS, Federal Reserve, ending the war in Iraq and restoring a constitutional republic. Globalists do not give a dam whether we are liberal or conservative..................they just want control and they are achieving that through the corporate fascist administration that is in power right now.

We are Americans on this site.............first and foremost. We want to take our country back period. With the devaluation of the dollar that has resulted in higher prices for everything, not only gasoline, the deplorable housing foreclosures, and the sad state of affairs after Katrina, the American people have awakened to the hard facts that the government will not help them. If they could not and would not help out during a major crisis, they sure as hell with not help out with this depression that we are in. Young people on college campuses are the most knowledgeable about what kind of a mess they are walking into after graduation and seem to be the most determined to make some healthy changes. We can hope. The NWO people are scared to death about the Ron Paul Revolution and know the ideas of Freedom, a sound economy, autonomy and justice are what Americans really want and hold dear. The revolution is an idea whose time has come and it will not be stopped.

Party affiliation has to be on the back burner right now as we start winning at the local level. As long as they have Ron Paul's philosophy it does not matter whether they are running on a republican, democrat or independent ticket...............I would vote for them. Interestingly enough it is happening on the local levels. I feel that the movement will eventually emerge into a party and whether it will be named the Constitutional party, Libertarian party, Restoration party or whatever..........time will tell.

Even within parties you have right, left and center. A southern democrat was more like a right wing republican than he was with his democrat brother from the more liberal northeast.

What amazes me the most is that you whtwtrdood are not aware that the false left/right paradigm has been shattered. That was one of the results of the Ron Paul Revolution.........Paul has done more to set the New World Order back years. This extension has given the complacent American people time to examine what has really been going on and decide whether or not they will put up with it!

My faith is with the American people and somehow I do not feel they will go along with any more of this NWO crap! I only wish to see those involved with the globalists agenda, whether Republican, Demcrat, right, left or center................brought to justice.

Those bastards took a oath.......................and they have violated it in many ways. They have signed the death warrants for over 4,000 young men by knowingly sending them to fight and die for a lie! I can not forgive one of them for that and that inclues the three present candidates for the presidency!


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What puzzles me about whtwtrdood>> oh excuse me I mean "white wash dude" is that he seems to really be adamantly opposed to virtually anything we have to say on this site. although he doesn't have any viable solutions for what ails this country. But like the brainwashed masses he is content to let society crumble while the band plays on.

With him more than likely being a government employee you would think him and his federal buddies would have their own website like maybe www.tyranny.com or www.eradicationofrights.com

But I guess there are those who get some cheap amusement by trying to be a fly in the ointment. But he will soon realize that the folks he works for eventually even turn on their own kind. Then and only then will the dust settle and he'll see clearly that this government is nobody's friend.

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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 10:49 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I'm not talking about political party affiliation but rather basic tenets. Individuals with liberal viewpoints are not going to ascribe to the overwhelming majority of opinions here because it is the exact opposite of what they believe - things like higher taxation, stricter gun control laws, and more government intervention. They also view the Constitution as a malleable document. I defy you to find one post here advocating any of that.
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You can believe it or not ................but less than a year ago I would have been one of those people. I thought it was a less selfish and more benevolent way of dealing with the people. There was not too much thought put into it I just sort of went along.

You would be amazed at how many of my left of center friends have changed. If you don't think that seeing tanks with kills marked on them going into a compound to collect women and children as was done at the LDS ranch recently ...................you are very wrong! I have also heard some of my right wing friends say that they would have much rather seen the billions of dollars spent on the 47 million Americans who do not have health insurance.

More and more people are looking at what they have bought into and that was the right wing and the left wing paradigm. More and more they are very upset with the fact that they are being targeted because they want to ask questions about 911 and what really happened. They understand that our freedoms have been eroded; What I am finding out, and I only speak for myself, is that I have both aspects withing my being and now today I will not accept any labels as to whether I am right wing, or left wing.................because I am neither! That is the globalists old divide and conquer BS to keep Americans divided so that they can control us.

What they do not understand is that all of this is cyclical and when you go far enough to the left you bump right into the far right. Freedom is neither right or left...........it is American. That is what we have come to understand.

I would go so far as to say that most of us have mixed opinions and we are now refusing to stay in their Matrix with their left, right paradigms.


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Hello???? Progressives (the far left) ARE globalists. Does the name George Soros ring any bells? Most folks with a leftward tilt think the UN is the greatest thing since buttered toast.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 11:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Why do we have to label things or categorize things as either "Right Or Left". What about this concept>> what about just good old "common sense".

I'll give you an example. I have a neighbor who I would tend to call a left wing liberal. However I do agree with her on several items of discussion. She is just as angry about police and government corruption as I am. She also believes as I do that the recent price hikes on gasoline and food are truly a conspiracy of the upper elite corporate CEOs working hand in hand with this sick government.

Where her and I differ is with small items like mandatory seat belt laws for instance. She also thinks that all of the petty city ordinances are correct whereas I think they are an intrusion on free living. But she tends to agree with me on big items like the unfairness of the IRS and the government being into way too many aspects of our lives.

My point is that in a lot of cases there really isn't that much difference in people in a general sense.

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Not only the progressives (the far left as you call them) ARE globalists. This present administration the neocons who billed themselves as the right wing of the republican party.............have done more to advance the globalist cause that any I can remember.

Globalization or the New World Order was David Rockefeller's baby. He is hardly what I would call left wing. He has achieved that by creating the CFR and it chief architect was Brzezinski. Brzezinski did this during the Carter administration. Carter ended up having 18 members in his administration who were CFR members. That was a democrat administration and considered liberal.

You do not seem to understand that globalists or the puppet masters do not care what political persuasion you are................they uses both persuasions for their own agenda. They just stir up the left wing vs right wing, democrat vs republican, black vs. white, Jew vs, Muslim etc.........for their old divide and conquer scam. We see right through their collectivism. That is what we are trying to tell you here on this site .............we are way beyond following for that crap because we are united in one main cause and that is taking the country back and restoring the constitutional republic.

Ed Brown always said that this was much more than just an income tax issue. However he and Elaine choose to fight back that way. It was one way and in effect it does cut off the money supply to the international banksters who are behind the NWO.

You are just confirming what I posted earlier....................The globalists do not care whether you are right wing, left wing or center. As far as the left thinking that the UN is the best thing since buttered toast..........You still have to understand that the UN was also a Rockefeller project. A lot of people on the right think it is a great idea too............that is because of the PR it got. This was going to be the institution that was going to unite mankind and we would never go to war again. All problems would be resolved at the UN and the nations would vote.

We saw how the United Nations was manipulated by the present administration and even thought Bush did not have the backing of most nations ...............off to an illegal war based on lies...........we went! That was not my idea about how the UN was to operate.

If you want to learn about how they managed to make the two parties almost identical I suggest you read Between Tragedy and Hope by Carol Quigley. Quigley was Bill Clinton's mentor. There was not much difference between Bush, Clinton, Bush Jr., and now (?) you fill in the blank. Either one Hillary or Obama.............it doesn't matter one iota. They have already been selected for the people. The elections are a fraud..........like most of what goes on in America today.

There is very little difference between the two parties. It has been slowly designed that way. They are just different sides of the same coin. To me it appears as though we are entering into a fascist/socialist system that the Globalists are engineering.
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I'll admit that I quote a lot of scriptures, but if you study the history of this country, you'll find that it was Christianity that gave this nation what freedom it did have.

How many other nations throughout history have been free? Not very many.

I'm sick and tired of labels also. I love this country as much as anyone else. I try to stand up for what is right. When I do a job, I work to the best of my ability.

My father was one of the best men that I ever knew. He was always kind and considerate. He spoke to others by saying "Yes, or no Sir:" or "Yes maam, or no maam." He never stood by and watched a person struggle that he didn't offer help. They never had to ask. That was just one lesson that he taught his children.

He gave respect, and he expected it in return.

You, White Water Dood, can call me a right wing extremist if you want. I think that is bullshit.
If you would study the scriptures, you would find God's Word and doctrine is closer to the middle than you will ever be.

You've probably never studied the scripture. You were probably spoon fed by some ignorant preacher that didn't have one bit of spiritual discernment.
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