Please Clarify your assertion - Ray Raymond Ronald Karczewski© http://www.arkenterprises.com You are posting my work all over the web to promote your agenda, your agenda and mine don’t mix very well. I thought we had that established. Your attempt to copy write my material with yo

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:34 pm

A Letter to Imprisoned Patriots, Ed and Elaine Brown

Feb 10th, 2008

Dear Ed and Elaine.

I am writing this to both of you and also posting it on "MakeTheStand" forum because of the definite shift in "sheeple consciousness" which has rapidly deepened in the RBN Patriot community since your unlawful kidnapping and now being held hostage for the perceived crimes of a fictional juristic person.

When you walked away from the Unconstitutional Courts you both clarified to the Corporate Fictional Administrative Courts that you both were a Sovereign man and woman who follow God's Law and were/are not bound to the jurisdiction of the courts of Mammon. They refused to show you the law which convicted you and refused to prove jurisdiction over you and Elaine as Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient,. man and woman. You challenged the law of the Pharisees. That could not be allowed. That was not allowed. They had to save face. Many men have died because of Government's need to save face, including Jesus of Nazareth.

Ed, I have sent you four letters so far, one was returned, got no response on the others. Are you getting my mail? By now you and Elaine have been acclimated to the prison environment. From reading some of the communications posted to others on the MTS forum, ed, it would appear that you are having a tough time, while Elaine has seen the opportunity to doing greater service to her God, her fellow inmates and herself.

I hope you both know that I am with you in spirit through your ordeal. Ed, you've been led into a state of disappointment. You and I may differ upon the degree, but we both know that you held out for Patriot retribution should you and Elaine be taken dead or alive.

Thank God, you were taken alive. Your death would have been a waste since you misjudged the resolve of the average Patriot Radio listening audience. Ed, you were surrounded by bullshitters, many with business axes to grind, you were gifted with a voice to many people, but were exploited at the same time.

Ed, your ideals have been severely tested and found wanting. You have placed more faith in your fellow patriots than they deserved. The bandwagon chattering momentum of all talk and no walk was evident on RBN and Genesis Patriot Radio even while you were still free. You'll notice that I repeatedly brought it to your attention. It did not change when you and Elaine were taken by force. As I predicted, RBN dropped the show, in lieu of their latest fad -- hyping the election of Ron Paul.

The poor listening audience schmucks who are taken in so easily by the broadcasting manipulators JUST DON'T GET IT. There is no line drawn in the sand between Satanic Manipulators, be they government or corporate media broadcasters. Ambitious men have always sacrificed their fellow man in order to further their careers and public status. John Stadtmiller has come out of the closet to reveal his ambition --. SAVIOURMAKER via Ron Paul.

Ron Paul too, shall be a dead issue come election time, Why? Not because of what the Politicians, Bankers and Corporate leaders do, but because the dumbed down American Sheeple, show no signs of awakening, short of Martial Law -- Then, for many it shall be too late.

What am I doing about it personally? I have never waivered in my personal view of individual sovereignty which I share with as many who have the "eyes to see and ears to hear."

I walk my talk. I serve God. Truth. I personally BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT, all aspects of this shadow government which is no longer a shadow, but which has openly declared its designs upon creating the two tiered MASTER/SLAVE New World Order. It matters not whether I stand alone, or shoulder to shoulder with a mass of individuals, coast to coast who understand that personal power and not Satanic Organization is the key to bringing down the Satanic house of Cards which has been the Government of Mammon since the beginning of time. Whereas I see what lies behind the words, the average man is stopped cold at a mere outer definition of the word. That is why I am not understood. That is why I stand alone.

I will not join any organization governmental, religious or patriot, for they are merely the institutions of bullshitters where the few leaders rule over the membership. The sadness of it all is reflected in the ease in which the average man remains putty in the hands of Satanic Manipulators, be the mainstream, or alternative media.

No one speaks for me. That will be my legacy to the world should I be put to death exercising my Unalieanable Right to Life -- via Self-Defense. I will not kill another over an idea. That Ed, is where you and I have always parted company. That institutionalized thinking is where "cannon fodder" has always been bred and offered up as human sacrifice to the Satanic God of the Old World Order and now New World Order.

Elaine. I am pleased to see how you are handling your incarceration. You have a great deal of love to offer and the women inmates you relate to, understand that. You will be safe in your incarceration as long as those who run the institution do not perceive you as a disruptive influence and attempt to set you up.

Ed, Your incarceration will be difficult. You are to be held out as an example to all others who seek to call Satan's bluff. Your bottom line is still resistance, where Elaine's is based in Love. Until you understand the depth of the nature of your being, you shall be reminded of your "almost, but no cigar" resonance with Truth by your enemies.

On the homefront, Anita is home once again from the hospital. This time we almost lost her. The doctors and staff were amazed at
her recovery. She too has a strong will to live and deal with her unfinished business.

Ed and Elaine, I hope you understand where I am coming from. I understand what you are going through whereas the average patriot is still reveling in superficial idealism.

Life is serious business. Live it or Lose it.

With Love,

Ray and Anita Karczewski

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:01 am

This is the Mainstream Print Media which forms your world view.

From: "Letters Mailbox" <letters>

To: <arkent3>

Re: A Letter to Imprisoned Patriots, Ed and Elaine Brown

Oregonian: Stop sending us this foolish material. Remove us from your mailing list.
-The Oregonian

rk: This is what Portland Oregon's largest newspaper has to say about Ed and Elaine Brown and the Patriot movement. These are the people who bring you the news.

rk: Fair reporting? The statement speaks for itself.

rk: If there ever was an admission of how media mind controllers think of their readers, this is it. "foolish material indeed!!

rk: If you are so inclined, give em a call and let them know what you think of the Satanic sentiment.

Raymond Ronald Karczewski© http://www.arkenterprises.com

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:38 pm

Excuse me sir, if you don't mind, but who are you exactly? I went onto your website and I was just curious of who you are. I tend to get confused easily with a lot of writing being shown to me which is why I'm a little curious right now. Thanks.

If I understand correctly you're like me. You view the modern government system as evil and God's system as supreme, like David Koresh (yes I have an obsession with the Waco siege). That's what I thought anyway... correct me if I'm wrong please.

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What a great letter Ray. Thank you for posting it for all of us to read and contemplate.

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I'm confused. You've written on other message boards your wife died on Dec 9, 2007 and here you say she's alive. Which is it?

http://groups.google.com/group/pdx.general/browse_thread/thread/7120b7cd10c93774

That Google Post seems authentic. It includes a link back to your homepage, as well as numerous other posts you've made, including the above letter.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:49 pm

I'm confused. You've written on other message boards your wife died on Dec 9, 2007 and here you say she's alive. Which is it?

http://groups.google.com/group/pdx.general/browse_thread/thread/7120b7cd10c93774

That Google Post seems authentic. It includes a link back to your homepage, as well as numerous other posts you've made, including the above letter.

rk: Your confused and misdirected. The post you refer to is one of hundreds of forgeries in my name flooding the Internet. It is written by government media disinformation agents who have been stalking me for 12 years on the Internet in order to discredit my writing and destroy my reputation. Their design is to throw people like you off your balance while you are shocked by my simple Truth.

rk: The good news is, if you check the google archives, you will see they've backed off, a couple have apologized and they realize the futility of taking on a Christ.

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"No other man but I in the recorded History of
mankind, including JESUS CHRIST, has directly
revealed to the World the SATANIC WEAPON used to
enslave mankind -- INTELLECTUAL THOUGHT!!"

Raymond Ronald Karczewski© http://www.arkenterprises.com

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:00 pm

Who Are You??

g: > Excuse me sir, if you don't mind, but who are you exactly?

rk: I am exactly who I say I am. I am a Christ.

g: > I went onto your website and I was just curious of who you are. I tend to get confused easily with a lot of writing being shown to me which is why I'm a little curious right now. Thanks.

rk: If you can't wade through the writing, you're not ready for me yet. I don't give "sound bytes" on a silver platter. That's just so much Satanic Conditioning. The world in not in any more need of it that it has now. You will find the truth you seek, "beyond" the word. It require quietness and attention.

g: > If I understand correctly you're like me.

rk: By your words, you don't understand me at all.

g: > You view the modern government system as evil and God's system as supreme, like David Koresh (yes I have an obsession with the Waco siege). That's what I thought anyway... correct me if I'm wrong please.

*********************************************
"No other man but I in the recorded History of
mankind, including JESUS CHRIST, has directly
revealed to the World the SATANIC WEAPON used to
enslave mankind -- INTELLECTUAL THOUGHT!!"

Raymond Ronald Karczewski© http://www.arkenterprises.com

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Ray

Raymond Ronald Karczewski© http://www.arkenterprises.com

You are posting my work all over the web to promote your agenda, your agenda and mine don’t mix very well. I thought we had that established. Your attempt to copy write my material with your moniker is unacceptable. Please cease and desist.

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:42 am

- Last I knew there was only one Christ, Jesus. And the apostles, angels, etc. There's no separate branch of Christs, there's only the born again Christians.

- Quietness and attention is something I can easily achieve. I used to think that if you're independent and are some what isolated from the outside world (full of greed, corruption, evil) while maintaining a good life you should be fine. In today's age society can only get you into trouble and since I'm only 16 right now it's hard as all my peers either use drugs, curse excessively, sexual discussions, in a joking manner. So yes it's hard for teenagers which is why I presume to stay as much away as possible.

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:47 am

Ray

Raymond Ronald Karczewski© http://www.arkenterprises.com

You are posting my work all over the web to promote your agenda, your agenda and mine don’t mix very well. I thought we had that established. Your attempt to copy write my material with your moniker is unacceptable. Please cease and desist.

What work of yours have I posted? What have we previously established? I haven't a clue of what you are talking about. Perhaps you are being engaged by one of the many impostors.

Raymond Ronald Karczewski© http://www.arkenterprises.com

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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=munchiewizard

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http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=munchiewizard&src=IE-SearchBox

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http://www.ask.com/web?q=munchiewizard&qsrc=0&o=0&l=dir

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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:25 am

So a Christ, who is supposed to be one with Truth, is using another person's material? Without proper permission.... lovely.

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No comment Ray? Silence equates to fraud you know? Care to explain yourself?

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:12 am

No comment Ray? Silence equates to fraud you know? Care to explain yourself?

As a disinformation agent, you'll be out of a job soon. If posting urls of search pages concerning articles written to groups I have never posted to is your idea of proof, you are rather incompetent at settingh people up wouldn't you say.

Why not post the actual comments you are attributing to me instead of such vague misdirections, and then asserting silence is confirmation

All I see is a poor schmuck riding my coat tails because he has nothing to offer himself.

Ray

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So what you’re saying Ray is that this not you at google?

Hang up Your Person, Clothe Yourselves in the Light of Truth!
Munchiewizard wrote:
Fred Austin wrote:
Raymond Karczewski wrote:
Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 4:37 am

And this is not your doing? Results in group: alt.religion.christian-teen Http://society.daposts.com/search/?t=1&g=177&q=munchiewizard

Not you again right Ray?
http://canbelearned.com/ntopic254136.html

And this is not you at your own site right Ray?
http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch212.html#Government

Really; I’m flattered Ray, but I feel if you’re going to quote me or use my writings to your benefit; you at least owe me as well as those reading it the courtesy of posting a link back to the thread you borrowed it from. Considering the fact that you hold yourself up as a Christ the folks reading will have a way to find out that I don’t hold the same beliefs about god and satan that you do. Nor will I ever.

I do appreciate the fact that you at least hung my tag on my work. But then you have the nerve to copyright it by hanging your little corporate symbol at the end of our supposed conversation everywhere you post. You are making it appear that we had those conversations on those sites and that is not the case and you know it. So I would have to ask you; who is riding whose coat tails Ray? So please Ray, give my work the courtesy it deserves or cease and desist using it for your benefit. Thank You

Oh Ray; here are a couple of videos that explain just how I feel about god and satan. I really like the second one and have been saving it for a special occasion.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=2049628243

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=2167786

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Oh and the name calling is cute too Ray. Just what I would expect to hear coming out of a christs mouth.

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“rk: Then you ought not be disappointed to hear that you're a Government/Media disinformation "punk' whose been outed repeatedly on this forum.”

If I am an agent as you say Ray, and have been outed several times, please show me where. If I am an agent Ray then why are you using my writings on your very own web site?

http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch212.html#Government ? Scroll down to diatribe number 3.

Why are you posting this elsewhere on the web in a vain attempt to make yourself look good?

Why is it that anyone that challenges you is automatically an agent?

And why would you a self proclaimed christ praise me like this.

“rk: At any rate, congratulation on your "eye-opening" contribution. It is welcome admidst the confusion of meandering talk-abouts of the blind who lead the blind.”

Let us face the mirror of truth together Ray, like you ask everyone else to do and admit your wrong doings like we would all expect a true christ to do. You have done exactly what I have accused you of doing and you’re not christ enough to admit it. That alone is enough for me to think you’re the real agent here, after all you’re the one receiving the government pension, you’re the one who was a former warrior for corporatism. Your the one using corprate symbolism. Something really stinks here Ray and the odor is coming from your direction. Not mine.

Here is a new video for your enjoyment and anyone else who might care to partake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o&feature=related

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:53 pm

Are you meaning to tell me that you, Ray, have done no wrong in your life and are free from sin? If you were created by God, as all humans were, then this cannot be the case. Humans shouldn't be calling themselves a Christ because it's simply not logical.

You're human (you have two eyes, arms, legs, ears, etc.) unless you were involved in some sort of accident that stuff is understandable but either way you're still a human. Quite frankly I think you've taken religion way out of proportion. Feel free to correct me at anytime but I'm sticking to my defense saying there is simply no branch of Christs on Earth... not even Priests measure up to Jesus Christ and his Father.

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White Water dood, Clinton admin right, big real estate scam as I recall everyone profited but The People we paid for it in end. As in bend over rover..

Anyway you said; I'm confused. You've written on other message boards your wife died on Dec 9, 2007 and here you say she's alive. Which is it?

Rk said: Your confused and misdirected. The post you refer to is one of hundreds of forgeries in my name flooding the Internet.

Munchiewizard now say, ya right, and who in their right mind would waste their precious time writing forgeries of Ray’s wacked out idealisms?

Although keep in mind he will steal your thoughts and writings in a heartbeat to present himself above all others, as a superior being, a christ so to speak. When in fact he is no better than the rest of us poor slobs.

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You might as well answer in this thread Ray, as I will strive to keep it on top until you do.

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Great video I love TED.

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/86

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Why do Atheists care about Religion?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4fQA9mt-Mg&feature=related

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rk: Yet, like the other thick skinned Government/Media disinformation deceivers who work these Internet newsgroups and forums, you feel you can tough it out until Shaun bans you and then adopt a new identity. All you can expect from the mouth of a Christ, this Christ is Truth. Hell, isn't it?

No Ray it is not hell at all, because there is no hell. And IP addresses are logged here when sign in, so another ID is for not. If Shaun wants to ban me for calling you out that’s fine by me. So be it.

Might I remind you, I’m not the one calling names, nor am I the one lying, nor am I one holding myself up to be a deity. You’re the one who claims to be supreme; you’re the one who will not respond to or answer simple questions, you’re the one who points an angry finger at anyone who challenges you. You’re the one who hides behind the admin.

Reminds me of a quote Shaun once said when Fred Austin complained about you.
Something like what’s the matter Fred, Ray getting under your skin. I have to say what’s a matter Ray, Munchiewizard getting under your skin? I caught you dead to rights, now it’s up to you to make it as right as a self proclaimed christ can. Admit it Ray and Apologize for your misdeeds or you simply cannot hold yourself up as christ. Because you have been proven a liar.

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I will admit Ray, you have some excellent material to share, if you could simply get passed the religious bullshit. Your no more a christ than I’m Donald Duck.

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I guess now you have signed on I should your holiness a chance to respond before a mere peon continues.

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Should we continue Ray, or are you ready to fess up?