Oh... - And I should mention, I do agree with your above post, to the extent that the majority of the religious leaders out there in this country are freemasons and aligned with the NWO in the destruction of the country. I'm going to simply defer my application o

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Can someone explain the difference between these two. About 4 weeks ago I just discovered the Illuminati and the problems they are causing. I never knew there was so much corruption in the US as I have found. I believe in the Bible as I have done 12 years of research on this and just now seeing how all this ties back to the end times.
Some of these, to me, is starting to draw a fine line on what is truth and what is not. I have read that the Jews are the problem and that is where all the trouble is and then I have heard that Jesus was a Jew and then no he wasn't. If someone is trying to get the real truth out, this starts to get very confusing. I listen to RBN Radio network a lot, and sometimes they start on a subject but don't get back to it.

Thanks
Ken Smith

Newbie Joined: Apr 29, 2007 Posts: 69

Jesus in terms of ethnic origin was an Arab but the "Jesus was a Jew" argument is often used against anti-semites who need to blame someone for the problems in their lives. Jews, since they are somewhat loyal to each other in their times of need, are a convenient target.

The Illuminati in it's present manifestation among conspiracy theorists is an invisible bogeyman which they can use to blame for the problems they encounter in life. The real Illuminati was created in May of 1776 by Adam Weishaupt to destroy Christianity. The original order was disbanded but I'm fairly sure some wannabes still exist, mostly idiots in fancy robes pretending to be secretive to compensate for that which makes them feel inadequate in their real lives.

A dumbed down version of Illuminati dogma was used by Karl Marx to shepherd the Soviet Union into communism. The entire world witnessed how successful that movement was in the 90's when the USSR failed. China, today, is capitalist by token of it's economic trade policies even if it calls itself communist. The only true major communist nation still present is Cuba and it's people suffer terrible poverty under it's dictatorial rule at the hand of that bearded clown Castro.

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FredAustin wrote:

The Illuminati in it's present manifestation among conspiracy theorists is an invisible bogeyman which they can use to blame for the problems they encounter in life.

It's nice to read a voice of reason among all the paranoid garbage that is being posted on the Brown blog, website, and radio show.

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FredAustin wrote:

The only true major communist nation still present is Cuba and it's people suffer terrible poverty under it's dictatorial rule at the hand of that bearded clown Castro.

I'd say North Korea is still Communist, fwiw.

Recruit Joined: Jun 11, 2007 Posts: 105

Its not the jews its the Jesuit order there is a group of sabbetian court jews that are loyal to the pope and thats it.

The road leads to rome folks!

Catholics have killed more people in history then any other dictator/religion The inquistion alone killed over 50 million people for 605 years.

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You're all wrong, but I'll have to elaborate on that later Smile

Gotta eat. Will fill you in soon as I can.

Recruit Joined: Jun 11, 2007 Posts: 105

Shaun wrote:

You're all wrong, but I'll have to elaborate on that later Smile

Gotta eat. Will fill you in soon as I can.

how do you know

I have insiders in the NWO who left and told me this

the Jesuits,SMOM,Black Nobility control all levels of freemasonry and the Illuminati levels so don't say its illuminati or masons or bohimian grove rubbish Alex Jones brainwashs people with the low level criminals while the real puppet masters escape.

Why was 2 popes giving a cup of borgia, why did the first roman catholic president get assassinated why was the lincoln conspirators all linked to romanism?

here is the new world order that is grabbing america folks

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Heres your slave master folks the BLACK POPE of the military order of the Jesuits

and if you are a catholic you need to wake up and know your religion has been infiltrated by these monsters.

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These religious guys are involved, and some are at very high levels -- that is no doubt. I do believe they ARE all freemasons, and part of that "brotherhood" as its called. Masonry is indeed ancient, probably dating back 10s of 1000s of years.

If you believe the religious guys are at the very top, you are quite wrong. They are puppets too, my friends. I wish I could go into things further, but I've got too many important things to take care of right now. I don't even listen to (or like for that matter) Alex Jones. I've been listening to him because Ed and Elaine have been on there -- that's it. No, I don't buy bullshit. I've spent some time sorting through the bullshit, and have had others to help me. I know where true knowledge is, and more importantly, where truth lies -- inside of us.

Newbie Joined: Jun 12, 2007 Posts: 5

Truth doesn't lie inside of us, or, by extrapolation, society. It lies in the word of God. By testimony, Ed & Elaine are submitting to the law of God, rejecting the law of man. Which can be a big debate in and of itself, as the word of God commands us to submit to the government that God has allowed to come to be over us, except when that government violates God's law. If you want the truth, read the truth that has been written for us. The Bible applies to all areas of life, doesn't expire and has wisdom beyond comprehension. Ed & Elaine are a couple of true patriots, trying to protect the rest of us from abuse and tyrannical rule and I love them for that. It's not all relative it's either a 0 or a 1. Good or Evil. Dead or alive.

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You may believe whatever you'd like. I don't want this to turn into a religious argument. I believe we're connected to our Creator, and that this is self-evident. I furthermore don't believe we are to submit to ANYONE. God's law is that we're free and equal -- this is what Ed's talking about -- ask him for yourself.

Edit: see, you're already getting me into a religious argument. Let's just not go there. Let's agree on what is self-evident, TRUTH, that we are all equal and have the right to be free Smile

Newbie Joined: Jun 12, 2007 Posts: 5

Hey again,

I don't mean to be getting into a religious argument either, but your worldview affects everything you look at. And we, to be specific, man, are all equal and by extension free but if there was no authority there would be anarchy. I'd enjoy a discussion with Ed regarding this under any other circumstance and if I wasn't on the other side of the country with a new baby I'd be right there with him. Because this is very very wrong. I think what Ed (not to hopefully put words in his mouth Smile

) is getting at is that we are to protect the rights we have that are God given. Which are the principles upon which this country was founded on. You really can't just take God out and expect everything to function. In my belief this is why the country is in the state it is, because of the degredation of the family.

Newbie Joined: Jun 12, 2007 Posts: 5

And I should mention, I do agree with your above post, to the extent that the majority of the religious leaders out there in this country are freemasons and aligned with the NWO in the destruction of the country. I'm going to simply defer my application of authority and the inevitable eternity to Biblical truth, not the propaganda pushed by the fruits on that train.