inexpensive body armour - i figured, ahmed, that with urban terrain, lightning attacks, guerilla style combat that we'd need armor that is light and moves with the body. it was just a thought.

Newbie Joined: Jun 18, 2007 Posts: 90

[url]www.bulletproofme.com[/url]
Some of the best prices I seen in awhile.

I'm not sure what your local & state laws are on buying and wearing armour. So you might not be able to purchase any items here

[url]www.uscav.com[/url]

Kind of like cheaper than dirt buy they sale trama plates for a reasonable cost.

**Member** Joined: Jul 02, 2007 Posts: 614

this is the armor that you need ugly:

http://www.pinnaclearmor.com/body-armor/dragon-skin.php

Initiate Joined: Jun 20, 2007 Posts: 430

I always have trouble getting to bulletproofme. What usually works is to go to it by way of a search engine. So if anyone has trouble getting there, try Google or whatever.

If anyone is outfitting a large group, consider importing from China. I know--there are issues involved--but the Chinese armor generally uses Spectra fabric rather than Kevlar, and it costs about 2/3 of the price of local products. Of course, one could get a discount locally with an order of 100 units or so, but at a minimum this can be used for bargaining.

Johnny, the title of this thread is "cheap body armor" or something like that, so why would you bring up the most expensive armor, costing close to $5,000? Besides, reports are coming in that Dragon Skin is not living up to its much-hyped reputation.

**Member** Joined: Jul 02, 2007 Posts: 614

i figured, ahmed, that with urban terrain, lightning attacks, guerilla style combat that we'd need armor that is light and moves with the body. it was just a thought.

Recruit Joined: Sep 14, 2007 Posts: 140

Even given the tactical disadvantage with m-16s, is close quarter combat a wise idea?
The chinese imports would require extensive testing before you could really trust it. A crappy mp3 player is one thing but faulty armour?

Initiate Joined: Jun 20, 2007 Posts: 430

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Even given the tactical disadvantage with m-16s, is close quarter combat a wise idea?

Two military acronyms to use when searching the Internet and Youtube are MOUT (Military Operations on Urban Terrain) and COIN (Counter Insurgency). You'll find a lot of military doctrine on those subjects which should be enlightening.

A major part of MOUT is room clearing--going from residence to residence, gaining entry, and emptying the building, one way or another. Short range, high capacity weapons are good for this task.

Another part of MOUT is sniper and counter-sniper activity. For this .308 or the newer .50 rifles are ideal.

The U.S. forces, as in Iraq, use close air support, so they don't need artillery that much. Mostly they need the armor to get them to the point where they begin operations.

A guerrilla outfit resisting that type of operation would need to go underground, to the sewers and conduits. This tactic was used extensively in the Warsaw Ghetto uprising ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto_Uprising ). For this reason, U.S. MOUT doctrine has chapters on sewer warfare. The sewers are to be mapped, alarmed, and surveilled. Some are blocked and others left open to lead to a kill zone, where the enemy is wiped out with poison gas or some other weapon.

Recruit Joined: Sep 14, 2007 Posts: 140

Thanks ahm,
I can definitely draw up counter strategies with this stuff.
For the record I agree with j82 at the moment. Instead of holing up in one location, a loosely organized blitzkrieg/viet kong op seems to be the best option at the moment.
Scurry in the woods and pick off the redcoats.

---these is all theoretical paintball tactics of course---

Newbie Joined: Jun 18, 2007 Posts: 90

I just cracked open my 3 bottel of homebrew. All that honey I used insted of suger is like drinking some dry mead. Very Happy

**Member** Joined: Jul 02, 2007 Posts: 614

Sickleye: click on the following link if you'd like to read the MOUT field manual in it's entirety: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/90-10/index.html