blog w/ video from the arrest by marshals - Here is some information gleaned from the www.nhfree.com forum. 1. You may read that "a fifth supporter of the Browns was taken into custody." This was Lauren Canario, arrested on traffic charges. Lauren is a well-known practictioner of civ

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Aaand now that they are in custody I can ask this. Why on earth do you guys buy into a convicted felon (Mr. Brown) and his sheep of a wife? Why do you think its OK to make death threats against the towns police Chief, Sherrif and the Marshals there? It amazes me that the Browns have managed to manipulate so many people, and you guys still eat it up like you're going to stop things. Huffing and Puffing on a website or having 150 person "Freedom Festivals" isn't going to do ANYTHING. Get into the system if you want to change it, not whine from the outside. And as far as the method of arrest, yes the Browns are that gullible, the conspiracy theories here are amazing. Many more intelligent people than this lot and the Browns were planning against them. Everyone keeps assuming a violent arrest, I'm willing to bet Ed was either cuffed or drawn on before he had a clue what was going on and, like most bullies when confronted, froze and did exactly as he was told. Glad this whole thing is over, if you want to buy some tin foil for some new hats I've got some for the capitalistic price of $10 per square foot, price is up due to demand.

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Hey "realistic",

That couple chose to make a stand against a law that does not exist enforced by an organization that is unconstitutional.
You wanna get continually a$$ raped then be my guest. But don't come into here and give us your venomous opinion about the Browns because they won't get in line and touch their ankles like yourself.
I'm proud of that man and his wife. God reward their courage and visit the slandering evil of your tongue back upon you.

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Wouldn't you know that the one time I ignore this issue for a while to get some other stuff done, it all blows up.

NHR: To delete a post, press the "edit" button at the top, then select the "delete" option at the bottom. It's not obvious, you have to look for it.

In undercover operations, the police typically use someone trusted by the target to introduce police undercover agents. This is known as "duking someone in." Typically they'll use an informer who they've busted on other charges, and in exchange for his cooperation they'll reduce the charge or sentence he's facing.

On the other hand, the feds have had long enough to get an operator to build trust with the Browns, so they didn't really need an inside man.

For some reason, Ed Brown did not want to accept much advice on ways to defend himself. Jose commented on this--it was Jose's fear that people around the Browns would get killed for this reason.

I was listening to part of the Alex Jones show. What a slimeball AJ can be sometimes. He said Brown was "shooting his mouth off", he claimed they were shooting randomly into the woods, and he said they were "just plain stupid."

Ed Brown did make some unwise comments, but for Jones to kick him when he's down like this is in really bad taste. It shows he has no class.
Jones claims he wanted to "de-escalate" the situation, which means essentially that he wanted the Browns to surrender.

Now that the Browns are in custody, someone needs to look after their interests. Who will take care of the dog? Who will inventory the house and sue the feds for stealing stuff, as they undoubtedly will?

Probably Elaine's son will have to take the lead on this sort of thing. Poor Elaine, she's 67 years old. She'll die in prison, unless Ron Paul is elected.

We need to monitor their health in custody, because the feds will probably single them out for mistreatment.

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Actually I am wondering why ed allowed that person to come in.
fact;
there was a roadblock that kept people away from the Browns house
fact;
Ed Brown is a smart man, he would probably have known the feds would only let in someone who was an agent.
theory;
Ed Brown therefore would have been very cautious about letting strangers or even friends in. I doubt he just let the guy waltz right in.
theory;
The house was stormed. violence was used and the official story is a steaming pile of feces.
I want proof Ed and Elaine are in good health.

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Sickleye, I've been wondering the same thing. I have no reason to think that the official report has anything to do with the truth. I think somebody needs to find a way to make sure of what is going on with the Browns, to make sure that they are not hurt by the pigs (can't find another word for them right now).

To realistic traitor: What are you here for anyway? Your original post on here showed your true colors so it makes no sense that you hung around. Unless of course that is your job (?). You seem to have derived some pleasure from knowing that an elderly couple are going to prison. You are a sick person or a traitor to your own people (that is sick too). Why don't you crawl back under and stay there. If it someone standing up for what they believe in bothers you then it just goes to show what kind of person you are. In the famous words (that have been repeated in many places by many people,,,,, Why don't you go f*ck yourself.

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http://www.wmur.com/news/14274183/detail.html

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http://edbrownvlog.blogspot.com/

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here found this also.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8S363QO0&show_article=1

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Here is some information gleaned from the www.nhfree.com forum.

1. You may read that "a fifth supporter of the Browns was taken into custody." This was Lauren Canario, arrested on traffic charges. Lauren is a well-known practictioner of civil disobedience. She was the one person arrested at the roadblock to the Brown's party. Here's the scoop:

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Lauren Canario was arrested Tuesday night for driving without a license in an unregistered vehicle. Lauren has intentionally been driving without her “papers” - she believes that people should be able to travel without the permission of the government. Lauren was torn forcibly from her car by thugs from the Milford Police Department when she refused to leave her car voluntarily. Her car was then stolen from her, and her husband and friend dumped and left on the side of the road. The Milford policeman apparently regretted making the stop, saying, “Why me?” when they had to call for backup to deal with this 100 lb woman. She was charged with speeding, driving without a license, driving an unregistered vehicle, resisting arrest and disobeying an order.

Lauren was brought to Milford District Court today, but not arraigned, since she is refusing to speak to her captors.

2. A bunch of feds have been hassling nhfree.com members.

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Listening to porc 411 right know they are asking for were abouts for Dave Ridley and Ron Jacobs.

Their badges say treasury department and they are asking who has been down to IRS buildings.

They want to know if there are guns in the house.

People keep asking if their under arrests or being detained.

They say no but your are not to move.

Now they are asking about NHFREE.COM

They also asked people if they were Ron Paul supporters!

3. One of the best comments on the Brown's situation was written by Dave Ridley to the Union-Leader newspaper:

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Whatever their failings, the Browns have never tortured anyone; they don't occupy foreign lands against the will of the inhabitants, they haven't inflicted a welfare state on anyone and they don't force you to pay their salaries.

The same can't be said for the institution which seized them yesterday and which will lock them into concrete and steel boxes for the rest of their lives...simply because they kept the fruits of their labor.

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ON another note, tread lightly. I'm sure the fed wont stop with the browns.

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Now that the Browns are arrested, all of the government whores are coming out of the woodwork. Got to keep that paycheck coming.

Ed and Elaine committed no crime. The judge over their trial was a damn fool and a whore at that.

Ed and Elaine spoke only of self defense. They did not speak of violence against government "civil" servants (civil servants my ass). There's nothing civil about these ruthless bastards.

These "servants" don't serve their true masters the people and the U.S. Constitution. They serve their pimps.

You stupid government whores - show the law. There is no law, and you know it.

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Realistic: it says in the bible that "it isn't what enters a man's mouth that defiles him, but what comes out." I've seen so many people make fools of themselves for one reason or another and yet you really exceed them all. first and foremost, we all support ed and elaine brown for alot of reasons. However foolish your beliefs may be, ed and elaine are right. we don't present conspiracy theories here, we do ask the federal government to show us the law that states it is mandatory for american citizens to pay a income tax. The browns informed the government that if they showed them the law, that they would gladly write a check for the whole amount and put this matter to rest. INSTEAD they spent millions of dollars to send federal operatives in to keep the browns under seige. I want you to think about something within the confines of that empty space between your ears: IF THERE IS A LAW THEN WHY NOT SHOW US?!! We've conducted our own research and NO LAW EXISTS!!!!

You also stated that we should "work within the system" to fix it. Allow me to break down the government for you as it stands today: A ELITE FEW ON THE VERGE OF: WIPING OUT THE DOLLAR, DISARMING AMERICAN CITIZENS, PUTTING US ALL UNDER SERVEILLANCE, WIPING OUT THE REST OF OUR RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS, TAKING AWAY OUR SOVEREIGNTY IN FAVOR OF A "NORTH AMERICAN UNION", AND PLANNING TO WIPE OUT 2 BILLION PEOPLE!!!!!!!

realistic: your thinking is about as realistic as adolph hitler's was during the last 2 years of world war 2.

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Could we get confirmation that the Browns were really arrested from close supporters and family? They have shown no images or video of their arrests. We have no information on the condition of the Browns. This all sounds pretty fishy. They've blocked all access to the Browns house and now this happens.

You'd think reporters and photographers would be all over this now, no?

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I'd be surprised if any images of their arrest comes out! I also think this whole thing sounds strange for one reason...

That Monier punk said that they sent a small team in, well okay, so why would the Browns let these people just dropped by, when the authorities have had the place locked down, not allowing anyone access to the house?

Seems like, unless I'm missing part of the story of late, the Browns knew the place was cut off to people, and when anyone showed up, it was people they knew and trusted, but those "friends" had been plants for some time to gain their trust. But that really doesn't explain how people show at the house IF they still had the place cut off. If they were cut off, anybody coming to the house should have been a red flag, shouldn't it? And has it been normal for them to be alone in the house for any length of time?

They are in custody I guess, but this story in general is not adding up just right.

What am I missing here?

Newbie Joined: Jun 14, 2007 Posts: 73

Considering the the track record of these so-called public servants when it comes to honesty I assume that they are not telling the truth in regards to the apprehension of Ed and Elaine. I don't think that the Brown's just let anyone in their home (yes it is a home, not a fortress) so I suspect that there was some kind of raid or drugging or someone that they trusted pulled a Judas on them.

Personal defense against a raid:
Well this comes down to how clever you are, how easy it is to defend your position and at what point you become aware of the raid.

Personal defense against drugging:
This could be difficult to avoid if you are dependent on sources of food, water and air that your enemy has access to. I suppose the first dish of anything could be tested on a pet (sorry Fido).

Personal defense against Judas:
Number one, don't trust anyone,,,, unfortunately this is clearly uncomfortable and in some situations impossible. Typically the pigs use informants or people that they have coerced (often by fabricating evidence) to do their dirty work. As we have already seen they are willing to make empty promises to get someone to do their bidding. It is not unusual for pigs to promise lighter sentences to people if they are instrumental in the arrest of someone who the pigs are more interested in.
If you look at many organizations who depend on secrets being kept secret it becomes clear that fear is the tool used to maintain secrecy. The mafia, masons, gangs all employ the use of fear to avoid problems. This is not to say that many people are not loyal and that fear is necessary with all people but it is useful for the "only kind of loyal" amongst any organization. Some organizations basically keep tabs on what other members are doing to be sure that they are not being coerced. One red flag about someone in an organization would be if they had recently received a lighter than expected sentence for something.

I do not know what happened to the Brown's and I really want to know and I want everyone to know as soon as possible. Those who are aware of the police state mentality that exists must also be aware that at some time or another they will be coming after anyone that does not agree with their system. We need to know their methods and if their is a Judas then we should know who it is. I hope that their was no Judas involved but past experience makes me wonder about who was close enough to the Brown's to get in their door and was in a position to be coerced.

As time goes by we all need to keep our eyes out for Judas. You make your own decision about how to safeguard yourself from him/her. I can tell you that a Judas is a person who thinks their own life is worth more than yours. Anyone that thinks in this way does not deserve respect or mercy because they have put themselves in a category lower than one that decent humans are in. They are nothing more than traitors, I think that history speaks for itself in regards to how to deal with traitors.

I am sure the pigs want to divide us and isolate us so it is useful for them to create distrust amongst the patriots. I do not have an answer for this that I would write on the internet. We need to think clearly about every move we make and keep our houses clean. We are dealing with the worst kind of scum who will do anything to achieve their goals.

On a final note: Regarding people being coerced, I am sure that many public officials are under someone's thumb (being blackmailed), that is half the point of the sex parties in Washington. We can assume that some of the people who appear to be our enemies are being coerced by higher ups. The government is nothing more than a mafia, anyone with half a brain can figure out that many of these people do what they do either out of fear for their life or out of fear for being exposed. Unfortunately they are not wise enough to see that their problems will only get bigger if they don't come clean. If they fear that they will be killed to cover up something such as illegal orders being handed down from above then they should realize their best chance to survive is to aggressively go after the one they fear. It is time for these so-called public servants to live up to their name and point their guns in the direction of the real public enemies. As I pointed out in a recent post they need to make it loud and clear which side of the line they are on. Later claims of patriotism will fall on deaf ears, it will be too late. Too late to live in a nation that has regained its sovereignty where all can benefit from its wealth and live without fear of oppression.

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Maybe there is no film of this and no chance to see the Brown's house because of telltale signs of a fight. ?

We still don't know that the Browns are in good health do we?

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NHR: i just read on their myspace blog that a news conference has been scheduled for october 10th according to fox news. if the feds have nothing to hide then why would it take 4 days to present details to the public?

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Maybe they are it will take that long to paint over the bullet holes or burn marks on the walls.

Maybe they are just so damn stupid they can't figure out which lie will work.

They said they sent a small crew to get them,,,, thats funny the neighbor said he saw a rather large number of SUVs going there.

We can expect only lies.

Who can find out about the current state of the Browns?

Newbie Joined: Jun 14, 2007 Posts: 73

Is there any type of "watch dog" group than can speak with them? What about relatives? Someone needs to see what the pigs are trying to hide at the Brown's residence. The normal procedure for these scum is to destroy evidence. We need to know the truth of this matter.

I hope the Brown's are ok. I hope that they were taken without being harmed. If that is not the case then everyone needs to be made aware of this and those responsible need to be listed for later reference.

Maybe I am worried for nothing,,,,, I just know their track record and it isn't a good one.

Please post any ideas for how to get more info.

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Johnny82 wrote:

some rabble.

And what do you have to say about this lovely hit list of people that supporters should take out? I suppose thats nothing because there's no law right? From what I can see of the 16th amendment its a blanket statement declairing anything and everything (unfortunately) taxable. And please, dont stand on a soap box and pretend to be an expert on tax law as I'm sure there are just as many law degree's here as there are doctorates in my back pocket. Also, to NathanHalesrelative, no I dont derive pleasure knowing an Elderly couple is going to prison, infact I think its unfortunate that Elaine, someone clearly skilled and a valueable member of society would be so callous as to not pay her income tax. I wonder what rates she charged at her dental practice?

PS if I'm Adolf you can be Nathaniel Forrest.

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Realistic traitor, you use the word callous to describe Elaine because she did not pay income tax..... Income tax,,, the money that yields no benefit to the infrastructure of the USA, the money that empowers those behind the NWO. The NWO, an idea, a plan,,,, a plan that results in the destruction of our freedom, and the death of untold numbers of innocent people around the world and eventually at home.

Your statements make it obvious that you are a supporter of the NWO..... Like I said before you are a traitor to your own people. You aren't even smart enough to figure out that you are putting the noose around your own neck and those of your family by supporting the NWO. You are a fool.

Go somewhere else to spew your lies. Better yet, do something positive for the gene pool,,,,, kill yourself.

At this point I will consider you to be a "non-person" (not worthy of existence with humanity), I will regard you as non-existent, you have nothing worthy to offer humanity.

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[un]realistic does not know history [supreme court rulings on the 16th amendment] and is therefore doomed [to repeat it]

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Still no talk about the not so subtle threats to various people made by a certain someone, I guess this is legal right? And again, with the historians and tax law. Unfortunate is the day that our education is based on Wikipedia. Is our government perfect? No. Do I dislike alot of what our government stands for? Yes. Do I think its OK for a convicted felon (before this whole tax thing) to make threats against people, and actively prepare to carry these threats out? No.

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if you want to speak in reference to tax law then be my guest realistic but i have 8 supreme court decisions declaring that the income tax is voluntarily, not mandatory. then you have to consider the lower court decisions like the case in las vegas where 9 people were aquitted of 161 tax related charges because a employer paid his employees in gold coins. then you have a case in memphis tennessee where a lady sent letters to the irs since 1995 demanding them to SHOW HER THE LAW and they never did. she won her case for income tax evasion because they couldn't present a law that states that it is MANDATORY for american citizens to pay income tax. by the way if you want to look up the case in question it's kuglan v. US

in addition to this we also have section 861 of the IRS tax code and neither the entire 50 states nor the american people are listed as "taxable".

you might want to study up on tax law there realistic.

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unrealistic--if they came tomorrow and arrested you, subsequently tried and convicted you, of a felony for not sleeping on the floor--even though you knew it was not a felony to not sleep on the floor--are you saying that you would acquiesce and go to prison for breaking a law that does not exist? and that we all should support the legal system that sent you to prison for a felony, for a nonexistent crime?

and call it what you may, but the supreme court interpretations of the 16th amendment are clear--and available to all who care to look. you just do not care to look, and that is curious indeed.

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The 16th amendment should be repealed because having a tax that is unapportioned while being direct is against the Constitution. This is where people should realize that the income tax is not lawful and "that is that" but not a lot of people take the time to read or do read but have trouble locking onto the 16th.

The Browns never promoted violence against anybody. As a means of defending oneself from a mischievous entity who isn't registered and not part of the government to approach upon private property to cause any ills, defense becomes a priority matter

I now can say that with unfortunate certainty that the Fed, and other orgs working as an accessory, are nothing more than the mafia, worse than this - a legal mafia. The intimidation, coersion, gestapo tactics are very unreal thing for me to digest. Knowing that a private corporation, not connected to any government agency, has the clout and capability of inflicting pain and possible death unto others for a law that doesn't exist, and an unconsitutional amendment, is a very frightening awakening.

In one of the articles, can't recall which one, the Federals do not have the power to act as police on Amercans and only to keep watch on foreign entities and to keep the peace circling about the individual states.

What a waste of money to monitor web sites and to try and probe/invade Americans computers. I don't know about anyone else but I stand up for personal privacy. I don't have an issue with orgs looking at my site or what-have-you but because of the corruption I do not trust this government. Why don't all of you orgs go and probe the computers of Osama Bin Laden. You might learn some things such as his assetts of him being affiliated with the CIA. Personally, something tells me he isn't alive anyway but research anyway.

To see a portion of the human race being blind and willing to ruin the lives of others; I always try to tell myself "It can't be possible - no human could be this mean and deceptive" I'm not going to label everyone from these orgs as bad apples but it only takes a few bad ones to ruin the whole bucket of apples. Is a paycheck, just taking orders, or not caring worth all of this over individual rights and liberties? I don't want to believe that people can be so ignorant to what is going on or do not care. For those people who have an iota of what is going on may I suggest that maybe another line of work/career might be more fulfilling for you and at the same time you will be serving the public in a positive way just as many of us are trying to do everyday.

There is a confusion on what a terrorist is it seems. It sickens me to see good people who are trying to bring about change as being terrorists. I guess the majority of Americans would be terrorists since they also want things to change. To be quite honest, I do not feel at all safe in my own country. I've had to separate associations with select places because of betrayal. I don't like having to go somewhere and having to wonder if someone would label me as this or that or prevent me from living life and in getting things done.

Terrorism is a tactic and you cannot have a war on a tactic. Knowing this, this war against terrorism is going to go on until the sun turns into a gigantic red dwarf and then scorches the earth unless people rethink their positions and priorities.

I just want to to live my life in peace.

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No I don't beleve it and if you read the comments from the fools in New Hampshire...........at the Union Leader............they are really dumbed down fools or just a bunch of law enforcement officers justifying what they have done to Ed and Elaine.

Not one mention about the 161 counts of tax evasion without ONE GUILTY VERDICT in the state of Nevada. No mention of Ed and Elaine putting up their property worth $1,000,000. to anyone who would show them the Law. Not one question in these fools' minds. I can not believe that there are no people in New Hampshire who have not research this and found that what Ed and Elaine are saying is the truth.

WHERE THE HELL IS THE BACKBONE OF THECONCORD MONITOR AND THE UNION LEADER? AND TO THE PEOPLE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE HOW COULD YOU ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN TO ONE OF YOUR CITIZENS, NEIGHBOR OR FRIEND?

IT IS TRULY A SHAME WHEN A GEORGE W. BUSH'S APPOINTEE STEVEN MONIER CAN PULL HIS POLICE TACTICS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND INCARSERATE INNOCENT PEOPLE LIKE ED AND ELAINE BROWN. ROT IN HELL MONIER YOU ARE A CRIMINAL AND TRATIOR. EVERYONE KNOWS IT.

YOUR SILLY LOOKING POSTURING AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE THE OTHER DAY SHOWS YOU TO BE THE LIAR AND CRIMINAL THAT YOU REALLY ARE. GREAT JOB MONIER YOU REALLY CAUGHT SOME VIOLENT CRIMINALS IN ED AND ELAINE. HOW COULD YOU OR ANY ENFORCEMENT OFFICER "FOLLOW ORDERS" LIKE A BUNCH OF NAZIS? WITHIN THE SAME MONTHS, IN THE STATE OF NAVADA THERE WAS NOT ONE GUILTY VERDICT ON 161 CHARGES IN A TAX CASE. IN THE STATE OF TENNEESEE THERE WAS A NOT GUILTY VERDICT AGAINST IRS Vs. KUGHLIN..............AND AFTER THE VERDICT AND THE JURY HAD LEFT THE COURTROOM, U.S. ATTORNEY MURPHY, DEMANDED THAT THE JUDGE INSTRUCT kUGHLIN TO FILE AND PAY THE FEDERAL INCOME TAXES......... JUDGE McCALLA STATED QUITE FIRMLY "I DON'T WORK FOR THE IRS." GOOD FOR YOU JUDGE McCALLA, GOOD FOR YOU!

HOW DO YOU SLEEP AT NIGHT KNOWING WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO TWO DECENT PEOPLE WHO DARED ASK A QUESTION? HOW DO YOU LIVE WITH YOURSELF MONIER, WHAT TYPE OF HUMAN BEING ARE YOU? I DO NOT REOGNIZE YOU AS AN AMERICAN WITH A SENSE OF DECENCY OR FAIR PLAY.

How sad that the people of New Hampshire ARE LIVING IN a police state. You have demonstrated that so well.

NO WONDER THE STATE OF VERMONT WANTS TO SECEED..........THEY HAVE TO LIVE NEXT DOOR TO THE STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE!

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i'm listening to alex jones, they just held a press conference in reference to ed and elaine brown. he said that anyone who heard this press conference to call in to give out information. furthermore, he also stated that as soon as he has information that he'll inform all of his listeners.

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go to www.prisonplanet.com they have new info on the browns

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click on the following link: http://infowars.net/articles/october2007/051007Browns.htm