I know why people don't donate enough $$ for your cause - It would seem you just have not been following along. We would still be paying all those taxes that are in-direct taxes, I want fuel I'll have to pay the tax to support the roads, if I want a beer or butts I will have to pay the tax to support the legal

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This will likely get nixed considering the negativity towards anyone who disagrees with your stance - yet - when you read all the jaundiced reactions on this and the Ed Brown site - it is immediately clear that those who are on the other side of the fence are immoral fascist pigs. The continual banter and victim role playing of the Browns and whatever anti-government stance you all may hold is equally disgusting to those who disagree with you. These websites really make you sound completely naive, paranoid and seriously mentally ill.

The comment in one forum post stating that I may work in January, February and March for free is frivolous. I gleefully pay my taxes...and you should be happy I do - as the roads you enjoy to drive to Ed Browns house wouldn't be there if it wasn't for taxes. Nor would the road signs to get you there....nor would the gas you buy be scrutinized for impurities, nor would anything else in this great country be available for you to attack if it was not for taxes. If there is no such law...and who in their right mind has enough time to check, then why on earth has Ed Brown paid them before...or his proud heritage loving family before him?

I say this without malice...I am just telling you....the websites are so fluent in negativity it makes me want to make a contribution to the IRS. Be done with it....Ed Brown says he wants his day in court....I believe he decided to stay home instead. Sooner or later...the hammer will fall...and the very people you choose to denigrate (police, judges and those who do not contribute to your dying cause etc) will do their jobs...as they are suppose to - without extra pay, without any benefit whatsoever. While I appreciate the spirit in anyone who wishes to question anything = the blatant denigration of others is a poor example for anyone. It is sheer paranoia to imagine that any government entity is tracking anyone who posts on a website...it is ridiculous. The ONLY reason Ed Brown has not been hauled out of that house feet first is because they likely are actually trying to protect him and everyone else who decides to use our roads to go there and buy him his groceries ( containing food that has been checked for safety by THE GOVERNMENT...you know...those people from outer space who are here just to bug everyone.) And...for Ed Brown to use the traditional name for Jesus (Yahweh) is hypocrisy. IF HE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT THE BIBLE - YAHWEH STATES IT IS EVERY CHRISTIANS RESPONSIBILITY TO PAY THEIR TAXES AND OBEY THE POLICE...THEY ARE SOLDIERS OF GOD. Need me to cite the chapter and verse?

I challenge you to leave this post...it is written out of nothing but sincerity.

Initiate Joined: Jun 23, 2007 Posts: 259

The U.S. Constitution is the Law of the Land. Who is breaking the law? Those who took an Oath to uphold it.

Anyone who reads what you wrote knows that you haven't studied the Constitution, or the history of our government.

Communist Manifesto Plank 2 -- the IRS
Communist Manifesto Plank 5 -- The Federal Reserve Bank

Neither are agencies of our government. They are private corporations.

Not one damn penny your pay to the IRS goes to any road, bridge, or anything else in this country.

It goes to the interest on a debt that was created by loaning us our own damn paper and ink.

You need to understand why the Constitution says, "Congress shall have the power to coin money..." the key word is "coin" not print. You need to understand the difference.

"No state shall make anything but gold and silver "coin" a tender in payment of debt." That's the law and the bastards should obey it!

Federal Reserve Notes are "credit bills" not money. That is another fraud. Look up the word "fraud" in the dictionary. "An intentional perversion of TRUTH..."

Watch the DVD - America: From Freedom to Fascism. Find out the TRUTH. Otherwise, the people who know the Truth don't want to hear your bullshit.

Initiate Joined: May 09, 2007 Posts: 459

It would seem you just have not been following along. We would still be paying all those taxes that are in-direct taxes, I want fuel I'll have to pay the tax to support the roads, if I want a beer or butts I will have to pay the tax to support the legal functions of government. I want to use the highways I’ll pay the toll tax or the national parks or state parks I'll have to pay the use tax. These are taxes that are set forth in our founding documents. These taxes, imposts and duties provide ample monies to support all the functions of our government, except our welfare state without an income tax. The income tax simply pays the interest on the national debt, for money we borrow to support our welfare state. Wait interest? We are paying interest to a private corporation so that they print our money out of thin air and loan it us and charge us interest, when we as a country have the power to coin without any interest. How fuc___ is that?

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Okay - a reasonable answer...and while I really do get the entire spectrum of taxes and where they come from and where they go...I think perhaps I failed to adequately address one other point. If all this is about simply showing a law to Ed Brown from a book...and him saying "Okay now I will cut a check" - then naturally - the government can simply create this law. What then? (seriously - these are questions that many people may have). In addition, I think the spirit of the income tax - no matter where we all think this money goes - is a fairly simple and equitable means to raise money. Look...I am like anyone else...I make a meager wage and really do not get excited and wave my flag around during tax time. But come on....everyone pays taxes...even the truck driver in the old comedy Mad Mad Mad Mad World knows this! Is there anyone who supports Ed Brown who also feel as though the entire situation has been taken to a level that borders crazy (in its delivery anyhow). Thank you for not cutting up my post too badly...I will be frank...I don't support Ed Brown at all - I think he is wrong...and I also think it is important for sites like this to accept that opinion. I have to laugh...everyone is afraid of the govt. tracking their computers...but er...why is my IP address displayed in bright white letters to the left of this reply?

Site Admin Joined: Apr 03, 2007 Posts: 578

Moved to endless debate

I won't delete the thread -- I usually don't (you didn't use any uncalled-for vulgarity, cursing, etc).

However, I'm also banning your candy clown ass, because of your username. If you want to come back with a more appropriate username and act respectful, you're welcome back. You will have to re-register and use a different email.

Site Admin Joined: Apr 03, 2007 Posts: 578

Oh, and you're is spelled you're. Saying something like "your an idiot" just makes YOU look stupid.

I was nice, you can use your original email to re-register. If you'd like to have a discussion with us, follow the rules (this includes making a proper choice of usernames). If you DON'T wish to have a respectable discussion with us -- don't re-register. OK?

Initiate Joined: Jun 23, 2007 Posts: 259

I too became upset when I saw his username.

I can tell you right now that responding to this person is a waste of time no matter what name he uses. He does not want to know the truth.

His meager wage probably comes from the government. I know multitudes of government employees who don't do a damn thing for their money. Gravy jobs, just show up and get paid. In ten years they get a retirement from the state. So, they move to another state job for another retirement.

We have multitudes of lazy slobs working for the government. They never reduce the size of government whether they need the people or not. Most of them are related.

If you want a job at a school, you just need to know someone there. More than likely a family member will get you on. It has become all fun and games, football, basketball, etc. The schools are a joke!!!!

Newbie Joined: Aug 18, 2007 Posts: 32

good call Shaun - he/she was probably from the disinformation crowd.
The geeewilickers they just want some of my money. - Hey maybe he/she (thekook) cd send me some tax (money)...hmmmm?

Newbie Joined: Oct 15, 2007 Posts: 3

I thnk it's simple, if there is no law that requires him to pay his income tax and he pays anyway then great. Send me a check while your at it will ya? lol