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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:23 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The Dow index fell 364 points today, so it seems a good time to start this thread. It is presently at 13,420. If you look at the monthly chart, there is a line of stability around the 13,400 price range, so if it goes much below this it will signal a really dangerous decline.

Of course the U.S. dollar has been falling fast against other currencies, which accounts for the recent rise in the Dow. If both the dollar and the Dow decline, that spells trouble.

So what happens during a financial collapse? If you look at the course of previous collapses, the worst decline occurs over a period of months. There are periods when the market goes up. Basically, investors who are short (betting the market goes down) are taking profits, causing a brief rise. Also the Powers That Be have ways of arranging temporary rises to draw in the suckers, so they can be fleeced when the market declines.

During this period, the money lenders foreclose and build up their inventories of real estate. Millions become tenants and ultimately serfs. Most worrisome will be the foreclosures on farm properties. God help us if the NWO gets a monopoly on food production.

Social programs are overburdened, and so work camps are set up. The military draft is reinstated. Social upheavals result in many arrests, but the jails and prisons don\'t have capacity, so the overflow are sent to camps.

With people eating in soup kitchens and living in crowded conditions, infectious diseases become a problem, and so there is compulsory immunization and quarantine.

People forget about their civil liberties because they are struggling just to survive.

And guess what group benefits from all of this?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:40 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The current slam of the stock market is just the tip of the iceberg. I have an uncle who is a multimillionaire and he made it all by being a very smart investor and working hard. About 12 years ago I came into a chunk of money and I sought his advise at a family reunion I attended. I asked him what he thought about my idea of investing it in Gold and Silver coins. He told me that it wasn't time to do that. He told me that you want to invest in precious and industrial metals when everythingn else is going to hell in a handbasket. He said back in 1995 that the time is definitely coming when precious and industrial metals would explode and all paper investments would deteriorate.

So let's look at which investment vehicles have been doing the best here for the last 2 to 3 years. It's been Gold, Silver, Platinum & Palladium >> not to mention the skyrocketing prices of the industrial metals. People here where I live are even stealing copper guttering off of houses because the price of copper, aluminum and every other metal you can think of has shot through the roof.

I now reflect on what my uncle told me at the time. He said you'll know when to buy Gold, Silver, Platinum ect... by whats going on around you. He told me that when all of these paper investments would go to hell then anything with a real, genuine intrinsic value will go out of sight and it is as we are speaking. The only 2 elements that is keeping the stock from going into free fall are the official government "plunge protection team" and the rivers of dollars that are still flowing into mutual funds from the yuppies who are still funding IRA and 401K investments. However those are going to be running dry before too long because most of the Yuppies are way over extended and even their jobs are about to be eliminated.

Yeah folks the stage is set. We are about to see America as we once knew it cease to exist. That way when the markets collapse they can do away with the phony presidential election and install their dictator. It looks as though they are about to kick the legs. And Ahmed is right>> when people are desperately looking for food and water and shelter they are probably going to be very easily controllable. It's right in front of our faces if we just open our eyes to see it. Even the dumbest of the dumb by now have to sense that something is extremely wrong at this point. But for now the band will play on. But not for too much longer.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:11 pm Reply with quote Back to top

18 months tops before the SHTF.

What does this mean? We still have time to stop it Smile It's good to see they gave us a candidate like Ron Paul -- shows they're really scared and not ready to pull the plug. Now, that doesn't mean anyone should vote. It's nearly time to vote from the rooftops.

I will not be taken to a camp -- I can promise you that.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:58 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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18 months tops before the SHTF.

13,000 hours. Time to put aside all the "entertainment" and get serious.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:31 pm Reply with quote Back to top

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0pfGOH4uxA

This is a video of a FEMA facility in Beech Grove, Indiana. It has red, blue and green zones. It is speculated that the red zone is for immediate extermination as soon as the freight train pulls in. There is a warehouse that will fit 4 boxcars at once. Adjacent to the warehouse (5:21 into the vid) you can see a large tank marked "AGA Gas". If you look up this company, you'll see they supply medical and industrial gases, especially CYANOGEN CHLORIDE, which is an extermination gas. See http://www.kellysearch.com/us-company-900813087.html
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:29 pm Reply with quote Back to top

To Shaun:
and to the others who are wanting to Elect Ron Paul for our next president me included:
We wont see this next election. Before or around September, Our Government will assault Iran and the surrounding areas and a full scale world war will come out of this conflict. What they had started to create in Iraq will now be out of their control and consme the world as it was told to US, the average citizen, in the holy scriptures. Yisrayl Hawkins of The House of YAHWEH through extensive study brought to light what our very own system will be doing and so far what he said before have come to pass already. More is coming, like the nuking of Iran (The river Euphrates and the surrounding areas). Our system has ALREADY collapsed and the SYSTEM truly does not work ANYMORE. It shows that the governments that were formed by this unseen group of people will fail and will not work. They made us forsake the real freedom which could be found in the bible (The Book of YAHWEH) it plainly states that only The Creator's way will work. Our government IS corrupt and IS no more. As usual, they play BOTH sides. I try to do the math in my head and think about what may become of this. If anyone has seen Freedom to Fascism, a notable person of the film said that they "will have the wold government be it through conquest or consent".
They are provoking Ed and Elaine to have us "revolt" against them so that they may induce martial law. But wait, if Ed and Elaine give up and just simply surrender, we the people have simply given them what they want on a golden (OUR GOLD) platter: World Domination.
So, I am left with this. They know our minds better than we do as they saw to the work that Our Creator YAHWEH has done. These people have existed before we came about. They were supposed to teach us his laws while he was to see to the other things he has created (in Heaven= Space?) but, they have corrupted us by their ways and want us to do as they do (create war amongst ourselves and "play" and spread diseases that KILL us), they have down trod the poor and uplifted the corrupt, giving the riches that rightfully belong to ALL of US to them. But as the "manual", The Book of YAHWEH, that Our Father has given to us.. That is our hope. They are going to kills us and not knowing that they will leave a very few alive because they know he is coming back. Please re-read Revelations of John again and request The Book of YAHWEH (it is easier to understand) and if you know who has one, ask them to share it with you.
Trust me, the masons where I live are bragging about what hey are going to do. IT will be the mexicans and "illegal" immigrants first. They bragged about it through normal conversation.
Our system has collapsed and we can no longer stand back and watch and just "live". They will not let us live our lives anymore.
We were Never truly free. Never.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:52 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I'm technically bullish on GOLD and other precious metals for the short immediate future. I even think that industrial metals will be a nice haven for your money for the time being as well. But I am in no way suggesting that any of those investments be construed as "fool proof financial saviors". Two things I think that are first and foremost in anyone's bug out bag are some type of good water purifier and a top notch fire starting device. Because I believe when this financial collapse hits it's going to be really devastating. Older relatives of mine who were alive during the last Depression told me that they were even killing song birds or anything that had protein. Learn as much as you can about what you can eat in the woods. There are several insects that are edible. Most rodents like rats, squirells, chipmucks ect are all edible and some of them aren't bad eating. Acorns have a lot of nutrition but you need to learn about to soak the tanic acid out of them before you eat them. Don't fool with mushrooms unless you are a bonafide expert and can postively identify them.

I guess what I am saying is that when this upcoming depression hits it's going to be a pure survival situation. It's going to be more truamatic than most people realize. Then it's going to be easy for the government to promise people food, water and sustainance to trick them into FEMA camps. Don't go to any public place where they will be herding people into. IN the aftermath of hurricane Katrina they used the New Orleans Superdome where they herded most of the homeless people. It immediately became a virtual disease pit. Always keep in mind>> they ( the government) are not your friends. I can't stress that enough. And I think 99% of us here on MTS realize that. At that time your credit cards and other paper money will be utterly useless if it gets as bad as I suspect that it will. They truly are going to engineer a virtual HELL on earth to subject the people to. The big cities will by far be the worst places to be: leave them and avoid them if possible. According to the website >> www.thelibertyman.com <<he>> JD

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:48 am Reply with quote Back to top

JDS: Yes, everyone should have a bugout bag (BOB) filled and ready to go. There's a lot of good information on the survival websites (google "bug out bag"), but sometimes the ingredients are a bit silly. For example, a commonly recommended staple for a BOB is chapstick. WTF? Chapstick? This isn't a weekend camping trip! I'd be think more of iodine pills and heavy duty antibiotics for my kit. And one provision that is rarely mentioned: dental forceps. You can get them from Ebay or from a pharmacy by special order. If the SHTF, extraction may be the only form of dentistry available. Also, as the recent SARS epidemic showed, ordinary face masks are not sufficient to prevent inhalation of contagious germs. A special N95 mask is required.

I'd also recommend an alcohol stove, because the fuel (methyl hydrate, aka wood alcohol), is readily available. Instructions for making one are at http://hikinghq.net/sgt_stove/sgt_v8stove.html

The secret to traveling light is to cache supplies. This should be done in advance of any emergency. Learn to assemble 4 inch PVC pipe and then bury caches where you can find them later.
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August 1st: For those who don't know, the U.S. has a "Plunge Protection Team" (PPT) that is run out of the Secretary of the Treasury's office. When the stock indices drop rapidly, the New York branch of the Federal Reserve releases billions of dollars to select brokerages (Goldman Sachs and Morgan) who in turn buy index funds and the individual stocks in those index funds, to artificially drive the prices back up. Note that Hank Paulson, the Treasury Secretary, is former CEO of Goldman Sachs.

This happened today, but the PPT could do nothing about the stock indices in other countries. So here's what today's rout looks like. Bear in mind, these drops are for one day only:

Americas
Argentina - down 1%
Brazil - down 1%
Canada - down 1.9%
Mexico - down 1.9%

Asia
Australia - down 3.2%
China - down 3.8%
Hong Kong - down 3.2%
India - down 4.0%
Indonesia - down 3.9%
Malaysia - down 2.5%
Japan - down 2.2% (Note: Japan has slipped 5.2% in the past week)
New Zealand - no drop, i.e. 0%
Singapore - down 3.3%
South Korea - down 4.0%
Taiwan - down 4.3%

Europe
Austria - down 1.4%
Belgium - down 1.7%
Denmark - down 1.2%
France - down 1.7%
Germany - down 1.5%
Netherlands - down 1.8%
Norway - down 2.1%
Italy - down 1.9%
Turkey - down 0.4%
Spain - down 1.4%
Sweden - down 1.8%
Switzerland - UP 2.1%
UK - down 1.7%

Middle East
Egypt - no drop (0%)
Israel - down 2.5%
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In Germany there is the Bank IKB that has speculated on the US market. It has made mistakes and was loosing about 12.000.000.000 € of capital in only one day. A consortium of german banks has put together in the attempt not to loose contro. Like your PPT! The European Central Bank has announced to level up the interest of credits. All bankers here speak of a serious situation of the finance market and the consequences if it collapses.
Nevertheless what I m posting is just approving what ahmed and jd-spydo have written. There is something going on on the financial market that will threaten us all over the western world.
It is like written in the book of revelation, the beast is almost here and anyone who does not have the sign will suffer.

Greetings from Germany

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(I want to apologize for my very bad english but i try to do my very best. Smile
If you don´t understand what I´m trying to tell you ask and i will make another attempt!)

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hey even though dow jones fell almost 300 points its just the begining on whats still coming found this on the guy craner on stocks he is pissed. check it out.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=452808336
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In the image below you'll see the unmistakable fingerprints of the Plunge Protection Team, throwing money madly at the Dow index to keep it above 13200. Note that they push to get a high closing price.
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Japanese Stocks Drop on Concern Subprime Losses Will Spread

By Makiko Suzuki


An electronic stocks board in Tokyo. Aug. 10 (Bloomberg) -- Japanese stocks dropped, joining a global sell-off, after BNP Paribas SA halted withdrawals from funds that owned subprime loans.

Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group Inc. led declines by financial companies and exporters such as Canon Inc. dropped on concern mortgage losses will lead to tighter lending conditions and slower global economic growth.

U.S. stocks tumbled yesterday as subprime mortgage contagion and hedge fund losses halted a three-day rally and sent brokerage shares to their worst rout since 2002.

``The BNP news triggered a worldwide slide, making people wonder how many more funds are in a similar position,'' said Masaki Iso, who oversees about $7.3 billion as head of Japanese equities at Yasuda Asset Management Co. in Tokyo. ``The magnitude of the drop suggests money is flowing out of hedge funds, forcing them to completely unwind their investments.''

The Nikkei 225 Stock Average slid 391.21, or 2.3 percent, to 16,779.39 as of 10:40 a.m. in Tokyo. The broader Topix index lost 45.94, or 2.7 percent, to 1,637.87. For the week the Nikkei has lost 1.2 percent while the Topix has retreated 2.1 percent.

The yen was headed for a weekly gain against the dollar and euro on speculation the spreading U.S. subprime crisis will prompt investors to trim riskier assets funded by loans in Japan. It was recently at 117.91 a dollar and 161.08 to the euro.

Japan's bonds gained as investors sought the relative safety of government debt. Ten-year bond futures for September delivery rose 0.63 to 134.01 on the Tokyo Stock Exchange.

Aozora's Subprime-Linked Securities

Mitsubishi UFJ, Japan's biggest lender by assets, dropped 50,000 yen, or 4.1 percent, to 1.17 million. Nomura Holdings Inc., the nation's largest brokerage, declined 100 yen, or 4.6 percent, to 2,085. Canon, which made 75 percent of its sales outside Japan last year, plunged 270 yen, or 4.2 percent, to 6,220.

Aozora Bank Ltd., which sold shares to the public in November, tumbled 31 yen, or 7.8 percent, to 369. The lender said it had about 21 billion yen ($178 million) of securities linked to subprime loans in the U.S. as of June 30.

Aozora wrote off a 4.5 billion yen unrealized loss from securities backed by U.S. subprime loans in the first quarter, according to the bank's statement to the Tokyo Stock Exchange.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 2.8 percent and the S&P 500 slid 3 percent, their worst declines since a Feb. 27 drop spurred by a sell-off in China. The slide wiped out more than half of a three-day recovery in U.S. markets.

Global Impact

After the market closed Countrywide Financial Corp., the biggest U.S. mortgage lender, said ``unprecedented disruptions'' in the U.S. home-loan market may crimp its ability to lend and erode profit.

Earlier, losses had swept through all 18 western European markets. The Dow Jones Stoxx 600 Index fell 1.8 percent.

During the three days to Aug. 8, U.S. shares recouped about one quarter of the $1.6 trillion wiped out since July 13 by concern loans to risky home buyers will spread through credit markets.

BNP slid 3.4 percent, the biggest decline since May 24, after saying the bank will temporarily suspend the calculation of net value for the funds, and halt redemptions and new investments. Dutch investment bank NIBC Holding NV also said yesterday it lost at least 137 million euros ($187.4 million) on U.S. subprime investments this year. NIBC is not listed.

The overnight rates banks charge each other to lend in dollars jumped to the highest in six years. The so-called dollar London interbank offered rate rose to 5.86 percent from 5.35 percent yesterday.

`Credit Crunch'

The European Central Bank said it would provide unlimited cash as the fastest increase in overnight Libor since 2004 signaled banks are cutting the supply of money. The U.S. Federal Reserve added $24 billion in temporary reserves to the banking system. Canada's central bank put C$1.64 billion ($1.55 billion) into financial markets yesterday.

``This credit crunch will continue to weigh on stocks for a while,'' said Yoshihisa Okamoto, a Tokyo-based fund manager at Mizuho Asset Management Co. with $26 billion in assets. ``We just don't see an end to it and it's prompting everyone to sell.''

The Bank of Japan said after the market opened it will add 1 trillion yen of funds to the financial system in its daily money-market operation, the largest same-day operation since June 29.

Elsewhere, Orix Corp., Japan's No. 1 non-bank financial company slumped 3,000 yen, or 10 percent, to 25,610 after the company said its operating profit, or sales minus the cost of goods sold and administrative expenses, fell 24 percent to 53 billion yen in the quarter to June 30.

Skymark Airlines Inc., Japan's largest low-fare carrier, climbed 18 yen, or 5.8 percent, to 331 after the company returned to profit in the first quarter as it flew more passengers.

Volume Of Shares

Japan's stock trading surged to a record on the Tokyo Stock Exchange yesterday amid speculation hedge funds sold shares to meet redemptions as investors reduced risk because of U.S. subprime mortgage losses.

Almost 5.3 trillion yen of shares traded on the TSE first section, 80 percent more than the daily average for the past three months. More than 3.8 billion shares changed hands, the most since November 2005.

Nikkei futures expiring in September dropped 2.6 percent to 16,770 in Osaka and declined 2.4 percent to 16,770 in Singapore.

The settlement price for Japan's Nikkei 225 Stock Average options contracts for August delivery was set at 16,669.27 after all stocks in the Nikkei 225 began trading.

To contact the reporter for this story: Makiko Suzuki in Tokyo at Msuzuki13@bloomberg.net

Last Updated: August 9, 2007 21:49 EDT
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its getting worse on this by the day, anyone prepared for the worse?
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Dow Sinks 387 on Renewed Credit Concerns


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NEW YORK (AP) - Wall Street's deepening fears about a spreading credit crunch sent stocks plunging again Thursday, with the Dow Jones industrials extending their series of triple-digit swings and falling more than 380 points. The catalyst for the market's latest skid: a French bank's announcement that it was freezing three funds that invested in U.S. subprime mortgages.

The announcement by BNP Paribas raised the specter of a widening impact of U.S. credit market problems. The idea that anyone - institutions, investors, companies, individuals - can't get money when they need it unnerved a stock market that has suffered through weeks of volatility triggered by concerns about tight credit and bad subprime mortgages.

A move by the European Central Bank to provide more cash to money markets intensified Wall Street's angst. Although the bank's loan of more than $130 billion in overnight funds to banks at a low rate of 4 percent was intended to calm investors, Wall Street saw it as confirmation of the credit markets' problems. It was the ECB's biggest injection ever.

The Federal Reserve added a larger-than-normal $24 billion in temporary reserves to the U.S. banking system.


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The concerns that arose in Europe and spilled onto Wall Street underscored the potential worldwide ramifications of an implosion of some subprime loans and perhaps also weakened arguments that strength in the global economy could help keep profit growth going in the U.S. among large companies that do business overseas.

The ECB's injection of money into the system is an unprecedented move, said Joseph V. Battipaglia, chief investment officer at Ryan Beck & Co., adding that it shows that problems in subprime lending are, in fact, spreading into the general economy.

"This is a mini-panic," he said. "All the things that had been denied up until this point are unraveling. On top of this, retail sales were mediocre, which shows that indeed, the housing collapse is affecting the consumer."

Retailers released July sales figures Thursday that were overall disappointing.

The Fed didn't soften its stance on inflation after leaving short-term interest rates unchanged Tuesday. However, the renewed credit market concerns spurred bond traders who bet on its next move to predict that the Fed will cut rates at its meeting next month. Before Thursday, traders had bet on a 1 in 4 chance of such a cut.


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The Dow fell 387.18, or 2.83 percent, to 13,270.68.

Thursday's pullback continued an erratic pattern of triple-digit moves in the Dow since the index closed at a record 14,001.41 on July 19. Eleven of the 15 ensuing sessions have ended in a triple-digit gain or loss. Gains have been evaporating at the first mention of trouble in housing, subprime lending or the credit markets.

With Thursday's decline, the Dow is about 730 points, or 5.2 percent, below its record close. Some experts have been calling for a textbook correction - a pullback of at least 10 percent. At its lowest close since the market's high, Friday's finish of 13,181.91, the Dow was 5.85 percent below the record.

Bonds rose sharply Thursday as investors again sought the relative safety of Treasurys, pushing down the yield on the benchmark 10-year note to 4.79 percent from 4.89 percent late Wednesday.

The broader Standard & Poor's 500 index fell 44.40, or 2.96 percent, to 1,453.09.


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Before Thursday, the S&P had its best three-day winning streak in nearly five years. But the latest pullback was the biggest point drop and percentage loss for both the Dow and the S&P since a market decline on Feb. 27., that owed in part to concerns about subprime loans.

The Nasdaq composite index fell 56.49, or 2.16 percent, to 2,556.49. On Wednesday, it posted its biggest point gain in more than year. And while Thursday's loss was sharp, last Friday's was more severe.

Despite Thursday's slide, the major market indexes are still up for the week, given that stocks rose sharply the first three sessions of the week.

The pullback came after a BNP Paribas unit said it was suspending three funds together worth about $3.79 billion and wouldn't make investor redemptions until it could determine net asset values.

The funds invest in part in subprime mortgages through a process known as securitization. Investment banks bundle together mortgages - including those from subprime borrowers - and sell them off to investors such as hedge funds, mutual funds and other institutional investors. Buyers of such securities are seeking the steady flow of income from homeowners making their mortgage payments.


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"It just kind of brought the fear back," said Douglas Peta, market strategist at J.& W. Seligman in New York.

"In the last couple of days I think people maybe thought that an all-clear had been sounded," he said referring to some of the subprime loan concerns.

"This just highlights that there is not going to be an immediate resolution," he said of the companies that are trying to determine their exposure to bad subprime loans.

Shares of financial companies, which investors have fled recently amid lending concerns, took another beating Thursday. Citigroup Inc. (C) fell 5 percent, as did fellow Dow component JPMorgan Chase & Co. (JPM)

In another sign of credit market trouble, Home Depot Inc. (HD) warned that the sale of its wholesale business might bring in less than expected. The world's largest home improvement retailer, which also cut how much it intends to pay to repurchase stock, said volatility in the stock, debt and housing markets has led to the possible repricing. Home Depot fell $2.01, or 5.3 percent, to $35.79, and was the worst performer of the 30 Dow components.

But American International Group Inc. (AIG), one of the world's largest insurers, on Thursday reassured investors that it remains comfortable with its exposure to the subprime lending market as an investor, lender and mortgage insurer. AIG, which reported a 34 percent jump in second-quarter profit late Wednesday, said it has enough cash and liquidity and "does not need to liquidate any investment securities in a chaotic market."

AIG fell $2.18, or 3.3 percent, to $64.30, however.

The dollar was mixed against other major currencies, while gold prices fell. Light, sweet crude fell 56 cents to $71.59 per barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange.

Declining issues outnumbered advancers by about 4 to 1 on the New York Stock Exchange, where consolidated volume came to a heavy 5.76 billion shares compared with 5.3 billion shares traded Wednesday.

The Russell 2000 index of smaller companies fell 10.79, or 1.36 percent, to 784.87.

The Chicago Board Options Exchange's volatility index, often called the "fear index," rose Thursday to its highest level since April 2003.

European stocks plunged. Britain's FTSE 100 lost 1.92 percent, Germany's DAX index fell 2.00 percent, and France's CAC-40 fell 2.17 percent after being down more than 3 percent. Japan's Nikkei stock average rose 0.83 percent. Hong Kong's Hang Seng index fell 0.43 percent.

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As the chart shows, the Dow Industrials Index has fallen 600 points in the past week, and it is poised to fall through the 13,000 level shortly.

In the world of stock trading, round numbers are psychological barriers, and once passed, there is generally a run or a fall of significant magnitude before the next barrier is met, which is generally a Fibonacci fraction relating to the round number.

Knowing this, the astute trader gives a "stop buy" order to his broker. Normally, if the prices are rising, this means that the buy is executed when the breakthrough occurs, and then a programmed sell occurs after a run of some number of points. In a descending market, a short-sell order is placed automatically once the breakdown occurs.

The implication of this is that, once the psychological barrier is penetrated, a further rapid loss is almost guaranteed. This is just normal market behavior.

The Dow Index is going to get close to 12,000 in the next couple of weeks, but I expect very strong support at that level. For a while, anyway.
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"When up to a third of a trillion dollars being dumped into financial market's in 36-hours doesn't stem the tide, even the financially ignorant can sense something has changed. That's pouring money into the financial system at a rate equivalent to all of Canada's Annual GDP every four days. And what did we get? A 31-point Dow loss anyway!"
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Now is the time for every member to talk with friends and family about what we have all learned and know about the NWO/Globalists.

Do not kid yourselves the people of America are now awake. We have to inform everyone we can while there is still time.

Geezus, I feel like Paul Revere here folks!!!!!!!!!!!!! Make no mistake the elite criminals are rushing for the goal posts because they feel that they have a chance to succeed.


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Remember folks its theSMOMwho controls the bankers including the Rothschild. Remember how the Black Pope spoke about wanting a united Americas. Notice Venus/Semarisis/Minerva once again the root of five, currency! -Craig[/color]

PROOF: OUR LEADERS ARE BETRAYING US ALL!

UPDATED 14 August 2007 -- 22:30 HRS EDT
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FOR MONTHS WE'VE ALL HEARD STORIES ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE UNITED STATES, CANADA AND MEXICO WOULD BE "MERGED" INTO A NEW SOVEREIGN ENTITY CALLED THE "NORTH AMERICAN UNION" . . . . .

GOVERNMENTS DENIED IT PUBLICLY AND OTHERS CALLED US "CONSPIRACY NUTS."

WE FINALLY HAVE PROOF: THEY ARE COINING MONEY IN THE NAME OF THIS NEW ENTITY!!!!

"The Hal Turner Show" has received images of the new unit of currency they are planning. It is called "the Amero" which will replace the "Dollar" and the "peso" in all three countries once they are merged out of existence!




They are even coining "Ameros" in Collectable precious metals like Silver as the "Proof" coin shown below!!



More details are pending. One thing is absolutely clear: The governments of the USA, Canada & Mexico are engaged in a conspiracy to merge the three countries without the knowledge or consent of "The People."

In furtherance of this conspiracy, the government of the United States is intentionally spending the nation into absolute, unrecoverable Bankruptcy with the intention that the monetary system collapses.

When the U.S. currency collpases, it will take with it, both the Canadian dollar and Mexican Peso because both countries are so heavily invested in the U.S. dollar through trade with the US.

During such a collapse, when hundreds of millions of average citizens face absolute destitution because their currencies have been wiped out, these Conspirators will turn to 'The People" of each nation and say "your only hope is to merge all three countries and make a new start."

The thinking is that the populations will rush to embrace the merger and forget all about our individual history, rights and systems. In one fell swoop, the Conspirators will clobber us into absolute despotism and we will be helpless to do anything because our money will have become worthless!

While you're gasping for air at this, did you happen to notice the DATES on these coins? 2007

Gee whiz, this plan seems awfully far along. I guess this means the collapse will be this year? Maybe that's why the housing market was allowed to "tank?" Maybe that's why the Stock Markets are dropping hundreds of points per day lately? Maybe this is why oil has increased in price. . . . because the oil nations already know they're going to take a bath on the currency change when they have to exchange "Dollars" they're already holding which will be worth only "pennies" on the "Amero?"

Are you starting to grasp why so many things are going wrong lately? Does a lot of it start to make sense when put in the context of wiping out currencies in the name of globalization? It's the jew bankers, folks. Another jew banking scam designed to enrich the few at the utter devastation of the rest!

This is betrayal folks! Betrayal by our highest elected officials! Deliberate, intentional despicable deceit!

This is EVIL treachery on such a massive scale that the only proper response may be to simply KILL everyone involved.

Additional details are starting to come out and more information will be posted as it becomes available!!! Check back often.

Pictures also available at these links
http://halturnershow.com/20AmeroCoin.jpg
http://halturnershow.com/100AmeroCoin.jpg
http://halturnershow.com/PureSilver100AmeroCoin.jpg

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