Let me clearify - [QUOTE=Edgar,Jul 16 2007, 03:49 AM]Alex Jones speaking at St Edward's (Catholic) University. (This is the University where his Asian adopted sister attends): Video-- Alex Jones

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ALEX "TEMPORAL COADJUTOR" JONES A FAKE, [Just like MOSSAD boy Michael Moore!!]

http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=2301&st=45

http://geoffrt.quotaless.com/website/Secret-Symbolism/alex%20jones%20a%20coadjutor.html

This man says it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYrhD22vhcc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEQHTjYHDGU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0M1OCSUThE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A73mnP-R5C8

Papal Infiltration

http://www.spirituallysmart.com/pics.htm

The dead American patriot William Cooper who was ELiminatd by the Order exposes Jesuit Alex Jones

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He slams Alex Jones for whipping up unnecessary hysteria. He says that this discredits patriots and may even give an excuse for government crackdown and armies in the streets. Not saying it won't happen eventually, but perhaps Cooper thinks that what Jones does would make things worse or excell them. Anyway, it's a great listen from a legend. Amazingly, I found it on temporal coajutor Daryl Smith's site, which is authored by Hufschmid.

http://www.iamthewitness.com/mp3/Bill-Coop...-1999-part1.mp3

Originally posted here by [I]AntiSionist[/I]

Recruit Joined: Jun 11, 2007 Posts: 105

Dear Brother Larry,

Well Done! I will continue to expose Jesuit Temporal Coadjutor Alex Jones. His mission is to instill fear in the masses with the intent of driving the White Middle Class (Catholics and apostatel Protestants) into right-wing fascism. He is succeeding. His filmed staged events with David Gergen, Governor George Bush and Michael Moore confirm this conclusion.

Sincerely in Faith,

Brother Eric

Hi Eric,

A few weeks ago I was talking to a couple of New Agers that told me that Alex Jones is a member of a secret society in the government. A friend of mine and I were at a 911 conference last June, we were exposing the Jesuits and the Catholic Church with the help of Jesus, Alex was there. We were two door from his room, he told my friend in the lobby that I seen you somewhere before, he came up to the rooms and he told me I seen you somewhere before, he made this statement when my friend & I were separate. Th e next day around 2pm we were carring our board with picture and texts ( 60 x 50 board )exposing the Jesuits & Catholic Church, Alex Jones was in a chair reading a book on 911, I was passing him by when he saw the illustrations He says I need to get a picture of that when I turned the board for him to see what was really on there his head dropped down to the floor and he was dismayed. He said I'm being condemned on the internet by Eric Phelps because I'm not exposing the Jesuits. He went on to say he calls me a coadjutor (he couldn't think of the word right away). He says I need to study it out about the Jesuits. My friend told him that he need to be born again. As the meeting went on he avoided us. I believe that he is a coadjutor, he was working up the people into a frienzy against the government. He is working for Rome I believe. May God help us to be faithfull and true in these last days. Please keep sending the info you are sending us. Thank you for the info.

Larry

Recruit Joined: Jun 11, 2007 Posts: 105

Dear Christina,

As I have said publicly before, Alex Jones is a Jesuit Temporal Coadjutor. He is fomenting a revolt against the US government without correctly identifying the power ruling that government. This is exactly what the Jesuits want---revolution, anarchy, race war, and the rise of the White fascist new republican right promoted by the Knights of Malta for the last 25 years. Fascist Fox News is working to the same end---as are all the other Socialist-communist networks controlled by the CFR. Communism, in the end and as intended by the Jesuits, breeds fascism---as it has here in the US.

Mr. Jones never hosts any person on his show who exposes the Jesuits. He will not even breach the subject of the power of the Vatican as ruled by the Order. Although he is absolutely right on his lower factual conclusions, he never gets to the heart of the problem. By this we know his true allegience is to that man of sin in Rome.

Sincerely in Faith,

Brother Eric

Recruit Joined: Jun 11, 2007 Posts: 105

Jones is an infiltrator claiming to be free and fighting for humanity, he's simply controlled opposition being put on mainstream TV, let into BG to create the illusion of opposition. He has many friends with Hollywood which is controlled by the SMOM and Mafiosi (Not jews as they would have you believe). He has many Catholic friends including people linked to the Jesuits such as the Sheen's and Opus Dei such as the Gibsons.

Bank of America? You mean bank of Sovereign Military of Malta & JESUIT!

BEWARE!

The Disney Bloodline

Recruit Joined: Jun 11, 2007 Posts: 105

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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:17 pm

I've kinda had a weird feeling about him. I sent him an email complaining about the fact that he made Ed break 3 times during such an historical event only to plug his own merchandise. That really pissed me off. If nothing else, it proves that he's in it for the money. How sad.

**Member** Joined: Apr 25, 2007 Posts: 1235

I've learned a lot from Alex Jones, it doesn't mean you have to worship him. Use the information that you find helpful. This isn't about race or religion right now. It is the Money Masters. Yes, some top religious beings may have a lot of money and are in cahoots, but to daydream in one's head about killing or stopping a whole race or believers in a religion (or even the top 10 leaders) is ludicrous. Watch: video.google.com/videoplay?docid=449294564876413449

Become so powerful yourself by practicing boycott, and bring these money masters to their knees nonviolently. Spread awareness with media like F2F ascism, The Money Masters video, 'Zeitgeist, The Movie', The Creature from Jekyll Island (all free online). It is so easy, and ridiculously fun and empowering.

video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5667197686195095158

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:19 am

aa: Become so powerful yourself by practicing boycott, and bring these money masters to their knees nonviolently.

rk: BINGO, BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT

Ray

Recruit Joined: Jun 11, 2007 Posts: 105

Alex Jones woke me up to this conspiracy, however he mixes up truth with lies you have to scrape off the bullshit and seperate the truth from the lies. You have to remember this NWO octopus has infiltrated just about every political/religious orgnization world wide they most likely have infiltrated the "anti-nwo" movements such as the 9/11 truth movement and all the other ones.

Even though Alex may be a dis-info agent he has his uses wakeing people up and when they are awake they can dig deeper into this conspiracy like I did and research the Jesuits/Vatican themselves. Reason why I stopped trusting AJ is for the last 4 years I known him he has never talked about anything more then rockfeller,masons,rothschilds he never talks about the religious extremist which are the real people controlling the NWO such as the Vatican, Masonic court jews etc etc. AJ and the other Temporal coajuditors seem to only go after the Illuminati which is low level.

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:26 am

Minuteman you sure bring out some items that need to be looked at very closely concerning Radio Talk Host "ALEX JONES". First of all I just want to say to you personally Sir that I have read a lot of your posts here on MTS.com and I respect you a great deal and I truly believe you are a Patriot and truthseeker. And please I am not in any way trying to be confrontational with you. But the one item that does cause me to wonder is where you more or less say that Mr. Jones is in cahoots with the Jesuits. I've listened to Alex Jones for about 5 years now and I will admit that he does some things on his show that really irritate me. He interrupts almost every guest he has and on many occasions doesn't even let them complete an answer or even make a point without rudely and blatantly interrupting them. That really angers me when he does that and he should know better. Now from what I have gathered about his religious status that I have gotten through bits and pieces of his past shows is that he does claim to be a fundamental Christian. To make my point I First of all know for a fact that he is a big pal of Evangelist Tex Marrs. I have a great deal of respect for Tex Marrs and he has exposed a lot of NWO corruption with many of the mainline religions and he has also blasted the Catholics/Jesuits and the former and present Pope. Tex Marrs' book entitled Codex Magica really showed me a lot of corruption that I never knew existed in the religious arena. Plus Tex Marrs performed the marriage ceremony for Alex and his wife Violet and they are all close friends. I really doubt if Tex Marrs would stay friends with Alex if he thought for one moment that Alex was indeed a "schill". Now if there is evidence that definitely would indict Mr. Jones beyond a reasonable doubt I will certainly take a close look at it. But I will give Mr. Jones credit for a lot of the education I have gotten about the secret societies, pedophile rings and many other evil corrupt characters that are part and parcel of this New World Order. I am truly suspect of some other stuff he has said on his show in the past. But all in all my jury is still out on whether or not Alex Jones is working for the dark side. The Hollywood connection does make me scratch my head and wonder. But you got to give credit where credit is due. I have 3 good friends who got woke up to all of this evil by listening to Alex. I do have an open mind and I will gladly look at any hard evidence. I do appreciate threads like this because sometimes it's your friends you really need to look out for. I have personally been severely back-stabbed by 2 people in my life who I thought were genuine friends and if Mr. Jones is truly a fake I want to know about it. JD

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We all have are own personal agendas, all with a common cause.

Newbie Joined: Jun 14, 2007 Posts: 73

I do not agree with everything that Alex Jones says or the the slant that he puts on some information BUT... For those who have no idea of what the government in the US is doing he puts out a lot of useful information.

Yes, at times I here him cut callers off short. Sometimes he has an obviously good reason for doing it.

I don't agree with the religous slant that he puts on some of the messages and really wish that he would stick to the simple facts regarding issues that we are faced with.

I don't really see him driving people to right-wing fascism (as someone wrote above). His message focuses on the activities of the federal government which most people seem to be unaware of because the mainstream media doesn't mention most of the important issues. Listeners and/or readers of any information are likely to shape it to their own ideas or philosophies.

I don't think that he is creating unnecessary hysteria. Complacency and disinformation is what has gotten us into this mess to begin with. Looks to me like Americans could use a bit of fire under their asses.

It looks like this topic was started (as with many other writings that have appeared on this forum recently) to focus peoples attention on something that we are not going to change at this time anyway. I am a bit curious why this forum has suddenly become inundated with this info about the Jesuits and the black pope and at the same time discrediting Alex Jones (who brings attention to the treasonous activities of the federal government).

(As one other poster has written) What are we going to do about the Jesuits and the black pope anyway. You can't destroy this religion at this time or from the position that we have.

We would be foolish to focus all our attention on this issue and ignore the one at hand.

Could someone who finds this Jesuit/black pope issue to be so important explain to me why we would want to focus on this before we focus on our own government, the federal reserve, the NAU, the Amero, the immigrant amnesty,,,,,?

I am not going to accuse anyone of anything here But,,,, It does look like the purpose of these posts has been to distract people away from the issues that we must deal with.

Please reply.

Recruit Joined: Jun 11, 2007 Posts: 105

Dear Eric,

We speak regular about Alex Jones being a controlled opposition for the SMOM media indoctrination. Well today I noticed he interviewed, David Mayer de Rothschild on Global Warming. Now just tell me how this would happen unless its all a setup and Alex is an asset to control the minds of intelligent folk and confuse them once again. The whole article is a complete setup including those pathetic twists where Rothschild says GCN is controlled by the Oil Industry, including also Jones reply. Its all mind games but alas to me this really tops it all off, having a Rothschild on his show. What the hell would a Rothschild want with Alex Jones unless its what we've said many times.

I just hope now that people will be suspicious. Could you see Rothschild on assassinated William Cooper's 'The Hour of the Time' radioshow? I think not! Its about time people took Alan Watts information about these phony superstars of conspiracy seriously and quickly. Have you noticed also how Jones seems to always have many great pictures at hand for his articles? He has a picture for this and that no problem at all whilst you just cannot find half of them. Infact try looking just on google image for instance for some David Mayer de Rothschild pictures and look at what you get.

Top Global Warming Advocate: Jupiter & Saturn Closer To Sun Than Earth
http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MI...pic=2301&st=75&

Thankyou
Craig Oxley

Recruit Joined: Jun 11, 2007 Posts: 105

Dear Craig,

Another great post!

I fully agree!

Brother Eric

Recruit Joined: Jun 11, 2007 Posts: 105

Eric and Craig, EXCELLENT OBSERVATIONS. While this Rothschild interview may
have been an exceptional example of Jones's treachery, the same monkeyshines
seem to occur everytime he has a CFR member, a talking head like Ann Coulter, Hutton Gibson, or any of the other Jesuit henchmen and junior conspirators on his broadcast. The high quality of his website, the photos (as Craig mentions), and the seemingly bottomless pools of information he dredges are indicators that he is only a disinformation Papal Puppet, vomiting forth truths in such a way as to turn his hearers from the foundational truth of conspiracy, that Rome is THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. Cudos for this post!

N C Turner

**Member** Joined: Jun 12, 2007 Posts: 3128

Minuteman Matt

I am very distressed about your rants about Alex Jones. He was one of the first to aweaken me and lots of others about the crisis in this country. I might also remind you that he was also one of the first to promote America: Freedom to Fascism by Arron Russo. He has put out many films like Terror Storm and has financed Loose Change.

I listened to the interview with David Myer Rothschild and was amazed how Alex called him out.

Alex also pointed out how David Myer put out disinformation about Mars and Jupiter being closer to the Sun than the earth.......he called him on every shot, and pointed out how he blatently lied and then laughs about it!!!

While I do not agree with some of Alex's methods and actions, I applaud the fact that he has been out there long before most of us. I applaud the work he has done.

Yes he has not been shut down yet, but that could also be because he is very vocal and strong about the constitution and his rights. The do back down you know!!!! We do have those rights!!!!

Ed and Elaine have been extremely greatful for Alex's coverage of their situation. Yes there were interruptions for commercials but he covered them! It is a fact that Alex would not be on the air if he did not have those sponsors........get it!

It feels like you are now the one who is dividing and conquering this site........we need all the help we can get, yours, mine, Alex's and everyone who is a member here. We do not need diviceiveness! Just because someone does not do it your way is no reason to attack them so viciously. Just stop O.K. When we win this battle those who are fakes will be known to all of us and held accountable I am sure. Until then quiet down on the attacks please, it has the harmful effect of defocusing all of us.

Just a suggestion, could you not start a campaign to impeach Judge McAuliff, or the Sherif or Steve Moniner, Head of the US Marshals Special Operatives........that seems to be the place where we need to put out energies right now. There will be time later for all the other allegations. Thanks!

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:49 pm

On that one day back in June when the Feds were getting ready to raid the house ( not compound) of Ed & Elaine Brown I was listening to Alex Jones on that day and he had former police officer Jack McLamb and Reverend Butch Paugh on his show that day. The 3 of them were discussing what if anything could be done to help the Browns at that time. Now I know that Reverend Butch Paugh has done a lot for the Browns to get the information out and I believe he has even went up there a couple of times. I know that Jack McLamb who was a big helper for Randy Weaver during Ruby Ridge was also showing solid support for the Browns on that day. I think we all need to take a look at the big picture here. With all of the good people active in the Patriot Movement we need to recognize who the real enemy is. And that is the worthless, dispicable bastards of the Federal alphabet soup crowd. Alex has done a great deal to educate me personally about the New World Order and the abominable corruption that now exists in our own government. None of us are going to see "eye to eye" on every single issue. But I do know that Alex is "pro gun" , Pro Constitution and fights for our rights as citizens. The BATF and the other government agencies are nothing more than than a clan of Judas-Goats and they are the enemy of the people of the United States. John Stadtmiller and Alex Jones are the 2 people who originally made me aware of Ed & Elaine Brown. I seriously doubt if any Judas-goat or government rogue agent would do anything to benefit the Browns or try to further their cause like Alex and John Stadtmiller have done. I truly believe that you guys here on this Forum are ardent supporters of the Browns and I am thankful that you all are here showing your support. I will be glad to look at any Hard Factual Evidence that would indicate that Alex or John Stadtmiller are not who they say they are. I'm not saying that it's not possible for someone to infiltrate to that magnitude but I am saying that I definitely need hard evidence to support such claims. Why would he and John want to be helping the Browns getting the information out if they were indeed infiltrators of this GOD-less government. Like the one brother said it was Alex and John who catapulted Aaron Russo and his movie "Freedom to Fascism". I have to support Alex and John both unless I see some hard evidence to prove otherwise. GOD help us all

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There is so much misleading information out there, that I check out every reference. I\'ve checked the URLs posted by Minuteman_Matt (MMM). His objections to Alex Jones (AJ) boil down to three points:

1. AJ betrayed someone in a Texas stand-off similar to the Brown\'s situation. Unfortunately, this seems to be true.

2. AJ is Roman Catholic. From this, MMM infers that AJ is under the control of the Jesuits. RIDICULOUS! Also, MMM\'s objections to the Jesuits are not based on reliable information. The best resource is The Jesuits by Malachi Martin. If you read this book, you\'ll see that the Jesuits have been a main force in \"Liberation Theology\", but the other conspiracy theories about them are way overblown. I might mention that there is a strong tradition of conservative economics in Roman Catholicism. For example, Edwin Viera, author of Crashmaker and Pieces of Eight is Catholic.

3. AJ has interviewed neocons and others in the globalist camp. It\'s called \"ambush journalism.\" He starts out friendly and when they\'re off guard he asks the hard questions. It\'s the same sort of thing that WEARECHANGE.org are doing -- getting in the faces of the establishment.

I was skeptical of AJ at first, but he provides references where people can corroborate his statements. After doing some due diligence, I found that his references are quite accurate. Where he fails some times is in drawing inferences that are incorrect. But on a whole, he connects the dots better than anyone else, to the point where he can often predict events before they happen.

Minuteman_Matt should be mindful of the saying, \"divided we fall.\"

**Member** Joined: Jun 12, 2007 Posts: 3128

Ahmed,

Thank you so much for your post on Alex Jones. Also your last statement saying divided we fall...........is right on the money!!!!

We all make mistakes in our lives. I am always weary of the one who is out there pointing the finger at others. Need to remember that when I am doing that three are pointing back at me. If Alex let someone down in anyway shape or form, I feel that with all he has been doing, he has made his amends and continues to do so on a daily basis. Get off his back and start doing something ourselves. I have a framed saying that goes "do everyone a favor today.........mind your own business!" That keeps me responsible for what I need to be doing and not sticking my nose into other peoples business. Nuff said!!

As far as wearechange..........I love them. Lew is only 20-21 yrs. old and he knows what the score is in New York City. I loved how he stood up to Larry Silverstien's goons!!!! I loved how he got right into the face of that evil Bastard of a David Rockefeller!!!! I loved the fact that he and his crew confronted Guilliani outside that resteraunt. Didn't you notice how taken a back these criminals were. Before this I was wondering where are the young people, the students etc.......I love wearechange's energy and dedication!!! I am 65 years old and I applaud them wholeheartedly!!! They are the ones who will be left with the horrendous debt, the recession that is sure to come and the police state that they will have to live in. I apologize for my part in not watching this more carefully and leaving them with this mess!!! I do help by supporting them in a small way financially.

We need all kinds of people from the young ones at wearechange, to Bill Moyers on PBS calling for Impeachment to Ron Paul, saying he would eliminate the IRS immediately............It has to and is coming from all age groups, all races, all political persuasions, all genders, all religions, all anti-war or pro-war groups!!! Why.... because this is biger than any single issue such as race, politics, religion, or gender............it is now about America. Something is terribly wrong here.............and we all know it!

This is a site that is dealing with the criminality of the Income Tax that has been illegalily imposed on the American people.

Ed and Elaine have had the courage to call the power elite out on their crimes. We need to be supporting, protecting and protesting with them in this effort. Stay focused.

I also feel that this is not the site for anyone to be protesting one religion or another. Because we are all frail human beings, each one has had their share of monsters. We all know that. But for anyone to pick any religion and attack it in the way I have seen on this site....only feeds into the hands of the puppet masters......That is EXACTLY how they operater to maintain their power......DIVIDE AND CONQUER. THERE IS NO PLACE FOR THAT
AT THIS TIME ON THIS SITE!!!! WE ARE UNITED, STRONG AND PERSISTENT IN OUR FIGHT. WE STAND RIGHT ALONG SIDE ED AND ELAINE, AND WE THE PEOPLE WILL WIN. GOOD ALWAYS OVERCOMES EVIL!!!! One battle at a time.........we will win this war against the overwhelming corruption that has infiltrated our country. It took give or take 100 years to get here........it will not take that long to get it back. Why because we have the internet now......the people know........something wonderful is about to happen and the Globalists don't even have a clue!!!!

The only place in history for George W. Bush is the last. He will go down in history as replacing his relative Franklin Pierce, the 14 President, a Democrat,.....whose decisions were directly responsible for America's Civil War. He was a pathetic leader and a practicing alcoholic!!!! Google it for yourselves. Makes me wonder about reincarnation!!!!!!

So let us be real clear on what we are trying to acomplish here. Frankly I would like to see some people lighten up ......... we can have some fun with this too you know!!!!

For instance, didn't anyone get a laugh at Steve Moniner's silly statements!!!!! He is such a little jelly donught of a man, with the biggest Nepoleonic complex I have ever seen!!!!

To get the fun started........ is it true that Larry Flint is secretly investigating the "SEX" lives of the "You Know Who Leaders/law enforcement/Slectmen/Judges etc." in and around Lebanon/Plainfield??????? There is a New Hampshire list being checked out.... is what I hear.........Way to go Larry!!!!

Larry Flint for President and the DC madam for "Vice" president!!! Great Ticket.......at least we would be honestly screwed!!!!! Get it going!!!

**Member** Joined: Jun 12, 2007 Posts: 3128

Me thinks thou protests too much!!!

I feel very uncomfortable with your posts. I feel that the contents are racist, and bigotted.

I feel that you are a Government troll who just wants to come here to be devicive. That will not happen.

This post has one purpose mainly and that is the fact that there is no Income Tax Law. What does attacking others have to do with that?????

Ed and Elaine Brown had to have a man leave their home because he was making white supremist statements statements. I do not feel that you are helping here at all.

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:32 am

MaidMarion,
Thank you so much for being a voice for clarity on this thread.

I am very new here, and in my desire to be supportive of Ed and Elaine Brown I took time to register here and begin reading. I would not be here now, and indeed would not even be involved in the "liberty movement" or the "tax honesty movement" had it not been for Alex Jones. Your insightful way of placing the focus of conversation here back to its proper topic has been a pleasure for me to read. Your words make me realize that I did not fall off into a hate-fest black hole on the dark side of the moon. You caused me to feel that I had discovered other good people who are concerned with purging the corruption, deception, and evil from the current imposter Federal government. You have my respect and you have my support.

I would like to state something for your further investigation later. It is about the Jesuit thing. Until very recently, I would not have wanted to hear anything about the Jesuits in connection with this globalist agenda of a one-world government. I would have thought that was a bit far afield, too hard to swallow. But I would like to tell you this, without enflaming this thread any farther, just because at some later time it is going to become pertinent to our struggle to take back our government.

I have been doing tons of reading for several years now. I began following Bob Schulz and We The People back in 2000, and I drove from Tennessee to Washington DC in 2001 to attend their public showdown with the IRS. I bought my copy of Griffin's Creature From Jekyll Island that same year and I've saved my own copies of the full page USA Today ads paid for by We The People Foundation for Constitutional Education. I do not file a Form 1040 and I do not pay one cent in Federal tax, and will not until the bastards show me the law. As to my "patriotism", I feel that is beyond criticism, for I am an honorably-discharged U.S. Marine and veteran of the Viet Nam war - I quit college and volunteered in 1965, being at that time quite ignorant of the corruption in government which produced that war. It took Oliver Stone's "Platoon", twenty years after I came home from 'Nam, 1987, to begin my wake-up process, which is on-going to this day. I am a former owner-operator of three small businesses and the proud father of grown kids who work for the Federal government and who know how their dad feels about that government at this time. I am a moral person, practicing total self-responsibility, even to the point of refusing to use any Veterans Administration "benefits" I may have earned - I want not one damned dime from this rogue government, and I will not bow down to it.

After attending Bob Schulz's meeting at the Crystal City Hilton in 2001, I moved to Montana where I am now a quasi-retired old veteran with the guts and guns to make my own stand. Being very grateful for the blessings of a long and colorful life in America, the old-fashioned America we older people can remember, I have decided that I must honor my conscience and resist this tyranny. But I stated that I have been reading. I've read Quigley, Skousen, Sutton, Cuddy, and a host of basic resource books, most of which I've listed here:

http://www.thejeffersonrivergazette.com/books.htm

I am aware that I've barely scratched the surface with that listing of books, and I have a long list of books yet to purchase and read, but that listing shows where I'm at presently in my process of self-education.

You will notice that I have resource books from the Patriot side and from the Conspirators' side. I read Quigley to know how the "enemy" thinks. I read the CFR's publications for the same reason. I read Albert Pike and Manly P. Hall for the same reason. I am presently writing a book which is to be composed of a series of open letters to the Montana state legislature, in which I petition my state government to protect me from this rampant Federal criminality. A number of those letters are presently posted on the site linked above. www.thejeffersonrivergazette.com I am just now building that site, and it is largely incomplete. Apologies offered, and help invited, lol.

I possess, duplicate, and distribute freely many of copies of Alex Jones films, and other films made by people who do not mind we little people making copies to pass around. I have quite a library of documentary films, some of which have already been mentioned on this thread. I have group showings in the Bozeman, Montana area. I call into local talk-radio shows, write letters, travel to Helena during legislative sessions, and am organizing The Jefferson River Coalition for the purpose of establishing a network of faithful Americans who now wish to overcome differences in political and religious views for the purpose of uniting to purge the evil from the imposter government. I am just one little guy, getting educated very late in life, but I'm totally committed and devoted to exposing this corruption and doing what I can to avert the tyranny being thrust upon us by the globalizing socialist bankers. Alex Jones has been very helpful to me. So has David Ray Griffin, G. Edward Griffin, Ron Paul, Lew Rockwell, Bob Schluz, Claire Wolfe, Wendy McElroy, Carl Watner, the Fully Informed Jury Association ( www.fija.org ), Aaron Zelman of JPFO, Vin Suprynowicz, Catherine Austin Fitts, Michael Ruppert, Ray McGovern, Daniel Ellsberg, and a very - very - long list of good Americans from all walks of life.

For all my time in study and research, I must now admit that I have surprisingly come upon some very un-usual knowledge regarding the Jesuits. From Blavatsky to von List to Hitler, from Pike to Colonel House to the Rothschilds, from W.H. Russell to August Belmont to Cecil J. Rhodes, from Woodrow Wilson to J.P. Morgan to FDR, from the Illuminati to the Skull and Bones to Bohemian Grove - there is one surprising common denominator which surfaces in my research again and again, and that is the "coincidental" presence behind the scenes of the Jesuits.

I just want you to be aware of that. I respect and honor you, and I want you to know that I am a person with values very similar to yours, and with, I trust, the same objectives as yours. But at age 61 I've learned that I've always got something surprising to learn still, and I'm offering you this tidbit of caution regarding the Jesuits so that you'll know to look more deeply into that can of worms.

What I'm presently learning about the Jesuits is not yet posted in my manuscript at my website, but it will be in coming months as I can wade through my resources and connect the dots for readers. I am a sort of man who requires impeccable documentation before leaping to conclusions or making amazing accusations. So I am not at this time accusing the Jesuits of anything. But I have seen enough at this point in my travels to understand that I must investigate that group intensely. And because I fully relate to your previous posts on this thread, and agree with you in style and principle as well as in "intent" and "purpose", I just wanted you to be aware that this MMM post-maker, divisive as he/they appear to be, may be onto a very well-guarded secret behind all other secret societies.

But while I suspect much darkness dwells behind the secrets of the Jesuits, I do not in any way with to agree with MMM's style of bringing that topic up here on this website. I agree with some here who notice that MMM's divisive mannerisms on this thread indicate a psy-ops action or at the least a dis-info operation. Your calm and clear voice of reason overpowers MMM's blasts at Jones, and for that I'm very grateful to you.

Thank you for letting me state that much here.
Keeping faith in good folks,
Elias

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:26 am

I was just listening to the POWER HOUR radio show this morning with Dave Von Kliest & Joyce Riley. Ed Brown called in this morning ( 07-17-07) and talked to Dave & Joyce for a few minutes. He said something that finally set off a light inside my head in regards to Alex Jones. He stated that when he was recently on Alex Joneses show and that he was only given about 5 minutes to talk and update us on his situation and he got cut off after only be able to talk for 5 minutes??? then he had some guest on for over 55 minutes with information that was not nearly as important as the Brown's situation. Also there have been many talk show hosts that have at least gone up there to stand with the Browns but for whatever reason Mr. Jones hasn't. Republic Broadcast Network even has a radio show for the Browns daily. I've got to admit that something just doesn't pass the smell test here. I'm not going to go as far as to say that he is controlled oposition as of yet but I do wonder as important as this fight is that the Browns are putting up against this rogue government why he isn't doing more in that particular area and why did he cut Ed short on that show. Also on yesterday's Alex Jones show he ( Alex) made it a point to say that he pays all of his Federal taxes and even went on to say that he probably even pays more than he should. I can't hardly believe that he even said all of that on the air in light of what's going on with the Browns. Seems like a bunch of double talk to say that you agree with Ed & Elaines stance and then tell your listeners that you are doing just the oposite. I'd like some input from the rest of you all on this one. Get a transcript of the show if you don't believe me. How many of you all heard his show yesterday? But for all of you who might have been listening to his show yesterday it truly had me stunned and I couldn't hardly believe what I was hearing. And keep in mind I do give Mr. Jones credit for educating me about a lot of nefarious government activity. Something just doesn't add up here. I'm not about to throw the baby out with the bath water but his most recent priorities just don't make much sense to me at all. Also back in February when he had Aaron Russo on his show he said the following to Aaron "say Aaron I understand that you haven't paid taxes in quite a while"? Mr. Russo immediately tried to change the subject because he obviously did want this knowledge to go out over the airwaves. And now Alex makes it a point to say on his show yesterday that he pays all of his Federal Taxes. That is such double-speak for a guy who claims he backs the Browns. I hope more of you heard yesterday's Alex Jones Show. Something isn't right here. I'm wondering about him now....

Newbie Joined: Jun 14, 2007 Posts: 73

Considering what happened to Elaine Brown's dental office I prefer that Alex keeps on paying his tax for the time being. As many people here have mentioned Alex Jones has woke up many people and continues to be a source of a lot of information. I imagine that when he doesn't pay his tax he won't be spending his time waking people up to what is going on.

Your post is interesting JD. I've been watching for a post like the last one. Very Happy

Site Admin Joined: Apr 03, 2007 Posts: 580

You can't have it both ways. You can't give the Browns all of your support while still paying your taxes. You can't criticize the government, the wars, the terror attacks on our own people and people all over the planet, the illegal taxation, the fact we have no recourse for what's going on...while still paying your taxes. You just can't.

I don't pay "income" taxes, and I won't -- ever. You can stick me in jail, you can come with guns to fight me, it doesn't matter. I still won't pay. I still won't bow down and scrape before your feet. It's simply not going to happen.

My conscience will not allow me to fund the next 9/11 on American soil. My conscience will not allow me to buy the barium salts, aluminum compounds, polymers, and all other nasty stuff they're spraying in the air and poisoning us with. My conscience will not allow me to purchase the depleted uranium that makes both our soldiers and the Iraqi people sick.

So, what's your excuse? If you're reading this and you're still paying -- why? Are you afraid? That can be the only reason. You are afraid of loss, afraid of losing your house or your family or your car, or simply your lifestyle. Well, you will soon lose your LIFE. Not that that life is worth a damn anyway. I'd rather live one day as a totally free man than 100 years as a slave in a cushy prison without bars.

Be in or out. Be hot or cold. Don't be in-between.

Initiate Joined: Jun 23, 2007 Posts: 259

I've listened to Alex Jones for about a year now. I do believe that a great number of people are being awakened by his program. I also believe that if he failed to pay his taxes, the feds would come after him immediately. They'd like to have him off the air.

Personally, I think he does more good for the cause than he does bad. I will continue to listen to him. He has a lot of interesting guests.

Always remember concerning everyone on the face of this earth: Including the Illuminati:

"He who dies with the most toys, still dies." (unknown)

For those traitors who might leave this earth before me, I want you to know that, if I'm still around, I'll be rejoicing when you leave. I may even dance a jig when D. Rockefeller departs this life.

These people will leave this earth the same way they came in: (naked)

Site Admin Joined: Apr 03, 2007 Posts: 580

I am glad Alex is around, because he gets a lot of people headed in the right direction. I do feel sorry for anyone who gets trapped by his always-revolving information. I also don't like the psychological effect he's sure to have on people with his fear-mongering, sensationalism, and yelling/screaming/etc. I get scared and/or depressed when I listen to him. He's a negative guy.

We need more positive people or we're doomed. We also need more, as Ray would say, Mirrors of Truth. Knowledge MUST be properly balanced with Truth. If you're taking in all knowledge and no Truth, you're going to be misdirected, mislead, and end up on the wrong path -- the path to slavery.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:23 pm

Well Shaun I do really appreciate your bold stance and I agree with you that this government is truly a parlor of filthy whores at best. I also agree with you that we have to do what we can to shut down their tyranny.

Concerning my post about Alex Jones and what he said on yesterday's show in regards to him paying all of his supposedly required Federal Income taxes I want to clearify the point I was trying to make. I agree with the one brother that I am thankful that his show is there in spite of some of his shortcomings. I would have never known about these national organized pedophile rings and many other government corruptions without listening to his show. But I think he would have just been better off not to even mention anything about taxes rather than saying that he voluntarily pays them. I think his show has educated throngs of people who wouldn't otherwise know that our government has been hijacked by an bunch thugs. But with John Stadtmiller giving the Browns enough time to do a show everyday you would think that Alex could have at least given Mr. Brown a good 20 to 30 minutes at least. But on the other hand he has made a lot of people aware of the Browns and their plight so I still try to give him the benefit of the doubt. John Stadtmiller has said on his show on at least 3 occasions that I can remember that he quit paying Federal taxes many years ago. I personally quit paying them about a year ago and I am getting about the same attitude that Shaun has about it. The blatant wastes and the totally insane things that they spend it on is just nothing short of an abomination. Bottom line: I do think that if Alex isn't going to fight on that particular battlefield then he should at least just shut up about it. I am encouraged with Tommy Cryer's victory and well as Joe Bannister's that more and more people are going to soon discover what a total scam it is. I think the Tax Truth movement and well as other great movements going on at this time are very encouraging to me. Just what has been discovered about 9-11 should be making these government whores a bit nervous that their cover is just about totally blown. But I certainly want to keep the information flowing and Alex is bringing out a lot of vital information. I do think that Republic Broadcast Network is our best friend at this time. They are doing a good job in my opinion. JD

**Member** Joined: Jun 12, 2007 Posts: 3128

I for one am truly greatful the I just happend by Alex Jones and his broadcast.

Yes he does yell, and rant etc.......At first I thought he was a complete loon!

Guess what he needed to yell to get me motivated. I don't like or even aybe approve of all he does. But I do think we have to give credit where cedit is due. He is really out there on the front line.

For me, I had to learn that life was not black and white. Most of us fit into the middle road that is mostly grey. Either or doesn't do it for me any more. I appreciate everyone who is participating in whatever way they see fit to stop this corruption and get America back on track. My way does not necessarily mean that it will be your way. And I honor and respect your choice of action. Most likely you will be dong something that I am not qualified or do not have the courage or experience to do. But I can tell you this, I have a mouth and fingers and I can influence a lot of people to take a look at this and invite them to participate. Bet you one of them will take up a gun for instance, where I more than likely never will, because of my age and the fact that I have never handeled one in my life! Does that make my contribution any less or any more than what anyone else is doing.

I need to practice everyday to stop judging........bad, good, right way, wrong way....etc.....and just focus on what I can and need to be doing. I can honestly say that I have been doing that for a couple of months now. Will I become more courageous as I go.........more than likely........hopefully!! Am I committed and making a contribution..........most definitely.

Most of all I need to stay focused on what I need to do to help Ed and Elaine with this struggle. I suport them 100%

Oh yes, from time to time I am going to throw a little humor in here too.....we need that! These are very dark times indeed. A good laugh every once in awhile releives tension and helps me continue on.........so those of you with a sense of humor ........throw some my way every now and then O.K.

Nothing shakes up the enemy more than when we laugh at them!!!! God help them but they are laughable..........but also dangerous. If you don't believe me check out that video where Ed's friend is going to put the selectmen on notice about the Feds not filing the proper papers. Chief Gordon Gillen almost lost it when he was being videoed. Evidently the video person must of smiled or laughed and whatch how he responds. The only thing that saved the video person was the camera. The Chief was purposely being provocing when he said something to the effect "your laughing, you think it's funny" Thank God the video guy did not resond and he had the camera........because this Bastard would have thrown his weight around!!!! He checks himself just in time. It was funny .....him going and getting a camera.......he was trying to intimidate.........but the camera and whoever was videoing did not back down to his intimidation!!

I love the fact that the number counter came up missing!!!! Read the
Monkey Wrentch Gang for more funny ideas........may as well have a laugh while we are protesting.

The fact that they sprayed the people at the Jamboree, this past Saturday is not funny however, go to showedthelaw to see the Video. All law enforcement officers and Civil Servants right up to the Governor must be held accountable for that!!! Who gave permission to spray these people and what did they spray them with!!! I am Outraged about this!!!! It has to be against the law!

Recruit Joined: Jun 11, 2007 Posts: 105

[QUOTE=Edgar,Jul 16 2007, 03:49 AM]Alex Jones speaking at St Edward's (Catholic) University. (This is the University where his Asian adopted sister attends):

Video-- Alex Jones - St. Edwards University 2007 [part 1 of 7]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z34j6cO9ccc...related&search=

Other parts are on right hand side of this video. I havent watched it yet but he probably exalts the church in in his lecture. Him just going there to lecture speaks volumes in itself as far as I'm concerned.

Here's the actual article from prisonplanet.tv:

http://prisonplanet.tv/articles/april2007/130407report.htm

Here's a quote from the page:

"Alex Jones at St. Edwards University, Austin

Alex gives a fascinating detailed lecture to a class at St. Edwards University in Austin about establishment media control, ways in which slick propaganda is dispersed through the elite-controlled "repeater" press whores, and how the alternative media is infested with paid-for kooks who are on the government payroll and deliberately poison the well of information to discredit genuine truthseekers."

uh....WHAT??? He's talking about HIMSELF there!!

Just by watching the beginning of this I see he is telling these Catholic university students to start websites of "alternative media". In other words this is a Jesuit/Catholic recruiting video for disinformationists.[/QUOTE]
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 18:45:07 -0700, chaiyah@abidemiracles.com said:
> Eric and Craig -- I've had enough of you bad-mouthing people. For
> someone
> who never watched the video but have lots of snide comments to make, I
> must
> recuse myself.
>
> "Divide and conquer" is not what Christianity is about.
>
> Unsubscribe me. Both of you.
>
> Chaiyah
>
> This was sent to Craig and was refused.
>
> ****************************
> Craig Oxley::
>
> "Divide and conquer," eh, Craig? Poison the well, eh? Strip off the
> credibility of anybody who attempts to initiate a Leader's function, eh?
>
> I'm not aware that the Kingdom of God is about "attack," "attack,"
> "attack"
> upon people who are ALSO seeking the Truth. ... accusations based on
> technicalities and less-than comprehensive knowledge.
>
> I cannot sit by and indulge this.
> Hate-mongering; self-righteous and obsession are Satanic components of
> Popery. This is Hate and Spite that we who love Peace must resist --
>
> "Righter than everybody else," you have no time to be tactful, to
> explain,
> to exhibit Grace or Mercy or Patience. Accusations never cease pouring
> from your mouths.
>
> How unlike Jesus.
>
> I no longer care how technically accurate you are : being a purveyor of
> hate and division, you don't deserve a hearing among those who want to
> preserve and make Peace. Despair and rage are all you create in a
> reader
> like me.
>
> "Blessed are the peace-makers." You are NOT peace-makers.
>
> Unsubscribe me; delete and ban me from your hostile Forum. I do not
> want
> to give any more credence to hateful diatribes and the commitment to
> divide
> Truth-tellers rather than build Unity for a new Wholeness.
>
> I must shake this dust off my feet, when Patience and Tolerance have no
> place in a discussion.
>
> Emily Cragg
> Chaiyah@abidemiracles.com and
> www.holyconservancy.org

Emily,

You've been deleted from my forum wether you wanted it or not. If you wish to stay hoodwinked by Conspiracy "COMPROMISED/SAFE" Superstars like Alex Jones feel free. Right now your such a close-minded Jesuit guided PERSON (learn its true meaning). You speak of a video, what damn video you speaking of exactly? I've watched ALL of Alex Jones videos as well as David Icke's so what you going on about exactly? I've watched more lectures and videos than you more likely and I can assure you that almost all of them are made by agents working as controlled opposition. Study shortwave, its creator and its control opposition tatics part of it was used for. Wake up! I will not unit with Alex Jones who will never discuss the SOVEREIGN MILITARY ORDER OF MALTA and JESUIT ORDER. Just keep asking yourself why he won't do this. Just why??????????????????????? WAKE THE DAMN UP!

I told you before I would punt you off my site if you annoyed me or continued to upload old information. I have no time for sheople who cannot see whats really going on, THIS IS WARRRRRRRRRRRRRR and its all about TRUTH not agent bunkum. So you carry on listening and believing everything Alex Jones, David Icke, Texe Marrs, Michael Colins Piper, William Thomas, Bill Deagle and all these other safe lackies cackle about. They will trap you with all their devious tatics manipulating you with pathetic lies amongst many truths.

I have no more time for this or you, clear off and carry on being a police officer for the system (SEWER). By the way I struggle to understand Bar bar barrr sheep language. Good Riddons.

Also I'm not a damn Christian! Also Christianity isn't about uniting with damn Romanism controlled cretins and devious liars out to KILL and IMPRISON billions of people. Christianity isn't about turning a SOVEREIGN, FREEBORN human being into some property of a mere mortal human being.

Its WAR!
CRAIG OXLEY

Initiate Joined: Jun 23, 2007 Posts: 259

There are many of us who come to this site to learn. I don't discount anything that anyone says. That's why we're here. I want to know the truth.

Many know more than others. Don't become discouraged with us who don't understand or may not yet know. Give us time to let it all soak in.

We need the information that you have. Don't give up on us!