Ahh, just want to vent how people don't get it, and think th - Had to respond to your feeling frustrated and at least a need for companionship aa!!! Your ideas are great and the main thing is to do them.......start now to realize all that you just wrote in that post.......One thing for sure you will be an independen

**Member** Joined: Apr 25, 2007 Posts: 1235

Ahh, some people just don't get it. They think these ideas are 'freaky', crazy, ... For some people the world as it is is working, so they don't want to hear anything that will rock the boat. I keep reminding myself to put my efforts at connecting with people that are open to this, instead of trying to be a hero and trying to provide tid bits that will awaken those that don't want to hear it. Some people just haven't felt the spiritual pain I have that has led me to consider looking for another way to live that is more in harmony with my values. I have heard I'm a hipocrite, because I use many things from modern technology, like the internet. It is difficult to just start living off the land immediately when I'm doing things alone. I'm thinking of 'live simply, so others may simply live', and how my life is so much richer and more meaningful once I found some things in harmony with my values that support my vision for a beautiful world in harmony with nature. Things and concepts like, nonviolent communication (tm), keyline landscape design, rain water harvesting, homemade simple biosand filtration, homemade simple non-electric-or-gas self-running ram pumps, biodynamic or totally organic gardening, humanure composting for eliminating pissing and shitting into clean drinking water and getting killer fertilizer from it, passive solar, majority of fresh, raw foods, homemade biocompatable products,.....
In the future, if I encounter someone with a wall of resistance to hearing different views than they're used to, I intend to provide a small opportunity every once in a while fot them to look into what I'm hearing, rather than trying, and getting fatigued and dissapointed from getting nowhere. Anyone else want to vent a bit or have a better strategy? I would like to hear from at least somebody so I can get a sense of companionship with my feeling of frustration, even if brief.

Newbie Joined: Jun 14, 2007 Posts: 73

I can relate to what you are saying. I will say that it is better than it was in the early 90's. Now it seems that if you are at a table of 10 people and you bring up the subject at least someone will understand what you are talking about. Still the percentage is annoyingly low.

I got so frustrated 10 years ago I felt there was no hope for freedom. I began to think that I was only hurting myself by continuing to talk about the government and its very dark agenda. This problem was partly due to the types of people that I had contact with (mostly through work).

One thing that I have noticed is that almost everyone has some sort of beef with the government. If I find out what they distrust or dislike then it gives me the chance to expand on this a bit more by relating what they don't like to the NWO. But, I try to be careful not to give them more than they can swallow. The fact is a large number of people are ,,,, brainwashed to some degree or at least in some areas of their understanding of the world around them. The truth is often a hard pill to swallow and after some people gag on it they won't even try it again (something like hiding their heads in the sand).

Many of those who seem to firmly believe the lies will someday become the biggest supporters of the truth (something like once bitten, twice shy), when they wake up to how they have been deceived they will be even more suspicious.

The good people out there do what they are capable of at any given time. Sometimes I feel like I can't get into another discussion with someone who lets the government and mainstream media do their thinking for them. Sometimes I have a lot of patience and can slowly work towards opening their eyes.

Some people I simply can't stomach and I decide that it would be better for me to focus my efforts on wiser people. I especially don't spend time on the people who care only about themselves. When I get a reaction like "Oh well, as long as my job isn't threatened I'm not going to worry about them"... I have to physically move away from people like that (at least out of punching distance), because they make me physically ill. This is the most obvious sign that someone is really stupid. I prefer to spend my energy waking up the more intelligent people.

If you are a good person you will do what you can. Every little bit helps. Just don't give up, that is the worst,,,,, I know, I had just about got to that point,,,,,,,,,, when I had no vision of freedom prevailing,,, I had no vision of a future,,,,,,,,,,,, shame on me for that.

It is better to die free than to live as a slave with no hope.

**Member** Joined: Jun 12, 2007 Posts: 3128

Had to respond to your feeling frustrated and at least a need for companionship aa!!! Your ideas are great and the main thing is to do them.......start now to realize all that you just wrote in that post.......One thing for sure you will be an independent, free man.

The beauty of your post is what I am trying to do with my life now too. "Live simply so others can simply live." I am a long way off but getting closer and closer to my ideal.

Whatever I do,I can not get discouraged.......it took us almost 100 years to get to this stage and it will take time gettig us back on track. Other opressors have fallen before and they will again. Good always prevails over evil........otherwise we would not have made it this far. That is not to say that I don't believe we are going through a particularly dark perior......we definitely are.......give the masses just a little more time and believe that the change will happen.

I have to believe it and then I'll see it.......not........see it and then I'll believe it!