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Re: Are JOSEPHINE COUNTY Men Being Emasculated by their Government
kurt hilscher wrote:
Raymond Karczewski wrote:
Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:16 am
kh: > so, as I understand the undersheriff, when concerned folks ask questions about stopping crime, expressing their fears and frustrations to a representative of the law and order "enforcement " branch of local gov., they are told," when it happens, cause it surely will, carry on a conversation with the perp?" If you do have to call a LEO, one will not be available, due to lack of funding..
Note: the words of "rk" are those of Raymond Karczewski an honorably, retired California Police Sergent now living in retirement in Cave Junction.
rk: The funding issue is a sham. Were Deputies allowed to become generalists in investigating crimes on their beat rather than just specialists in taking preliminary reports, much of the crime reported would be better followed up. The patrolmans time would be used more efficiently, and more criminal investigations would be closed.
rk: My viewpoint is that the Josephine County Sheriffs system is purposefully stacked against the people and is in favor of empire building via their budgetary, staffing. and training practices. It is all done by adding more personnel required to do a job when one man could handle it, if allowed to. It is all done via their current training policies of turning these patrolmen into specialists instead of generalists. (How many cops does it take to screw in a light bulb). The people of JOSEPHINE COUNTY are being strangled by corporate policies which benefit the corporation but not the People, those who are called upon to fund the operation. You, the People of Josephine County, the sovereign people who are the TRUE GOVERNMENT have, and are being conditioned toward worshipping positive images and authority symbols and you have fallen for it. Its all a matter of Hypnosis. Mass Mind Control. You have lost your Sovereignty and now have adopted the chains of slavery. Why would you do that to yourselves?
rk: Such venue of specialist training does not utilize the patrolman's time efficiently in fighting crime, ie. burglary, thefts, etc. As such they have plenty of free time to prey upon lawful travelers exercising their Unalienable Right to Liberty, which includes their Right to Travel. Travelers are not required to be licensed, Commercial Drivers and hoodwinked innocents who are intimidated into securing a license when one is not required -- ARE! Noncommercial users of the highways accept all terms of the Commerical Driver's license application, IE. COMMERCIAL VEHICLE CODE when they surrender their Right to Travel, in return for a License to Drive.
People of JOSEPHINE COUNTY, you are funding your own fear, your lack of security, your unlawful imprisonment, fines, etc. The provable fact, which can be witnessed on any given day, is that JOSEPHINE COUNTY Deputies routinely infringe upon the Rights of noncommercial travelers and in doing so, commit acts of piracy upon law abiding travelers bringing in $100 to the Sheriffs office for each impound release. Slick moneymaker is it not?
rk: Heaven help the Josephine County victim of such crimes in their attempts to hold Sheriff GIL GILBERTSON responsible for the actions of his men following his unlawful IMPOUNDMENT POLICIES, or to get him to answer a question(s) of law, which goes to this authority to arrest noncommercial travelers. The Sheriff's office, backed up by the District Attorney, judges, etc. swing into the age old Law Enforcement tactic of CYA (Cover Your Ass) and throw up a STONE WALL OF SILENCE.
rk: IN 1992, I was arrested kept in jail for 128 days for the very same things I still do now, today, this moment, that is, Holding my elected officials and their henchment accountable for their unlawful, and criminal behavior, but TODAY, the Sheriffs Department WILL NOT ARREST ME for the same offenses. CURIOUS, IS IT NOT?
rk: They won't take me before a judge. They will not answer the question of their "fictional" authority over this Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient Man of the Sovereign People -- Their Boss. They just steal my car and motorscooter repeatedly
rk: The trials I went through were a joke, were it not for the serious consequences of anyone being railroaded by their corrupt and criminally acting public servants. I went through two KANGAROO COURT TRIALS. Was not allowed to present my evidence, was not allowed Discovery (which is the Law), Was not allowed to subpoena witnesses, All motions were summarily denied yet the prosecutor had free reign to put on his/her cases on unimpeded. Stacked Deck-- YOU BET! That's JUSTICE IN JOSEPHINE COUNTY COURTS.
rk: To this date, SHERIFF GILBERTSON and company still refuse to answer the questions of JURISDICTION which have placed JOSEPHINE COUNTY and the STATE OF OREGON in Commercial Default in the millions of dollars. Yet the people of JOSEPHINE COUNTY slumber on, dreaming of the PR images conditioned into them by their Public Officials..
kh: > ..the supreme court has ruled that "cops" are not required to protect ANYBODY!
rk: That's a simple FACT! Yet how many people, who fund these operations KNOW THAT? The Sheriff's Department, prosecutors, courts, etc primary purpose is to Serve and Protect The Corporation, NOT the People. Yet the People fund this insanity.
kh: > So forget the words painted on the fancy rides...they will "Serve" you ,though, with papers and forms, and they'll show up with a militarized SWATteam who will hold a gun in your face and your child's, too, as per departmental policy...
kh: > We all pay for this, more every year, and the "work" they do is run a MONEY MAKING BUSINESS-cause crime does pay, it pays the cops and D.A.'s, and we pay them to do it( to us) No REAL crime-fighting is done, NONE! They are terrible at it, they don't care, and they are too "busy" playing Video Poker on the computers to worry about whiney hicks who hear prowlers in thier root celler.
rk: If the People of JOSEPHINE COUNTY only knew just how incompetant and corrupt their Sheriff's Department is, and understand what is coming at them in the future they would be OUTRAGED and would find the motivation within them to do something about it. However, They continue to Slumber on in their government imposed hypnotic trance.
kh: > These are POLITICIANS, they act in a political manner, spend an awful lot of money, and get poor results-and you all don't seem to notice....you're all thinking about an idealized idea of who cops were when you were growing up, maybe he was a familly friend, or walked a beat in the neighborhood, or in some way was"there" when someone needed him...well, he was replaced by politicians and political,money-making agendas ,crappy training, self-rightous and bulleying attitudes, and expensive radios....and you pay for it.
rk: Curt don't hold the taxpayers feet to the fire with facts, they can't handle the Truth. They want to cling to the comfort of their illusions.
kh: > People actually jump to "defend" the poor guys for doing such a good job of NOT doing the job! They don't have any answers besides passing the buck because they don't know how to DO THIER JOB!
rk: Such is the nature of the Stockhold Syndrome. That's the psychological condition when the hostage begins to love his captor, feeling that the captor will go easy on him. BASSACKWARDS, is it not?
kh: > They only want to do the easy stuff...com'on, pay attention!! REREAD what the undersheriff said, and THINK about it, what he's really saying...
rk: He's saying, let crime rise so they can gain more facilities, more manpower, more funding, MORE, MORE, MORE, but actually, through their systematic policy designs, doing LESS, LESS, LESS. People of JOSEPHINE COUNTY, open your eyes. See how you have come to your present state of fear and peril today. IT IS NOT BY ACCIDENT.
kh: > Ya know, most people can solve thier own problems, and should always consider protecting themselves and property, because you're kidding yourself if you think someone like that ideal from the past is gonna show up in time to help you- maybe, if you call a friend or neighbor, but, the cops are all gonna be in Williams or wilderville or 10-7 at the coffee shop....
kh: > To all the good cops out there, whoever you may be, I'm not talking about you...and i'm no expert, but I've seen and experienced the local level of police work, and it just doesen't exist (because the people won't fund it??). I did grow up in a cop's house, though, my father was on the San Jose Police for 30 years, retired as a lieutenant, taught at the academy, and i knew hundreds of cops growing up, and I couldn't get away with anything!!
Remember this-it's a proven fact that if you get rid of your cops, the crime rate goes down!!!!
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