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08/19/07
Music slide-show with lots of pictures from Live Free or Die 2. Hat tip to "livefreeordie2" from our forums.
07/14/07
Video from the Live Free or Die 2 Concert provided by Danny Riley. Thanks Danny!
6/12/07
WeAreChange.org presents a brand-new video documentary produced this past week!!! It's so new, that I haven't even watched it yet! Check it out!
6/10/07
Supporter Casey Lee Cobb from OpenYourMindsEye.com puts out a new short film that asks these violent, murderous agents used as cannon-fodder by the new world order some serious questions. Will the cowards ever stop enforcing a non-existent law by committing acts of aggression and violence?
06/07/07
Ed is interviewed by a local news station shortly after federal agents and state and local troopers show up on his property. You can hear their helicopter in the background. Ed stresses that it doesn't matter what they do -- it only matters how he responds, as a lawful man.
06/07/07
Ed and Elaine support, Danny Riley from New Jersey, is attacked by federal and state agents in gilly suits. He is first fired upon and hears two shots whiz past his head. Then he is shocked with a taser and tackled onto the ground, kidnapped, drug through the woods, taken to various locations and interrogated, strip-searched, and finally release (indeed, walking a dog with a cup of coffee is not a crime). He's threatened into talking with many many lies.
06/07/07
U.S. Marshall Steve Monier tells more truth than lies this time, and admits multiple times that they grabbed Danny because he discovered them, possibly foiling their plot to attack and kill Ed & Elaine! Know your enemies: this guy is just a spokesperson for the higher-ups. He takes his orders and will probably take the fall if things go back. It is corrupt, cowardice pigs like this guy that give the new world order and other evil movements their strength. These guys are the "useful idiots" and the "cannon-fodder" for tyrants. When will they learn?
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fm: > Ray, in his never-ending quest to expand his hat size to the largest in documented history, has taken a letter from some old woman who is describing her foray into the American penal colony, and turned it into a manifesto that is.... yes.... you guessed it.... it's all about Ray.
rk: To those unfamiliar with what is going on since I arrived on this forum, "Frightened Mannequin" is one of those government/media disinformation agents assigned to offset serious discussion on the Internet. Pay attention to the spirit behind the words of such individuals for it feeds the darker aspects of human behavior and seduces unsuspecting readers toward the lowest of human consciousness, petty debate and character assassination.
rk: May I recommend readers pay attention to the energy of Elaine and Ed Brown in their communications with me. Then examine the energy of anonymous coward who have nothing to offer of their own.
fm: > Nevertheless, it is funny to watch wrinkled old Elaine complain that she is a victim when she made the conscious decision to hole up with her insane husband in a compound armed with pipe bombs after threatening to never be taken alive.
rk: Despite the dark spin put forth, the question must be asked, "Whatch gonna do when they come for you"??
rk: Lawful arrests are one thing, Unlawful Conflagrations such as Waco, Ruby Ridge, and the massive military type advances made by a Corporate government who fired shots upon the Brown's home and occupants under the "color of law" ought to wake everybody up to the fact that we all have the Unalienable Right toward exercising Self-Defense and/or the defense of another against deadly force. When self-defense can be criminalized by an Unconstitutional "Color of Law" Court, it is the beginning of the Destruction of our Constitutional Republic and the enslavement of the populace by a two-tiered system of Masters and Slaves.
rk: Ed and Elaine had a right to self-defense. They shot no one. Their captors, corporate security forces, shot at the house and at an occupant. What is wrong with that picture when some have a license to kill, and another is convicted of a crime when they prepare for self-defense? Ed and Elaine Brown, showcases such tyranny in America.
rk: Here is a quote arising from the tactics of Nazi Germany. Pay heed to it.
Pastor Martin Niemoeller (1892-1984): wrote
In Germany, they came first for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they
came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then
they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.
And then, they came for me,
and by that time there was no one left to speak up. Martin
rk: Again, I ask, "Whatch gonna do when they come for you..
rk: The fact is no tyrant can take from you what you are not willing to give them, be it your support, your money, your freedom or your life. They require anonymous mind control/disinformation agents such as those who who have made themselves known on this forum to distort, misdirect, inflame and intimidate people into submission.
fm: > Kooks.... you might lead one to school, but you can't make them learn.
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Posted:
Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:53 pm
Ray, you silly drama queen
Frightened Mannequin
Raymond Ronald Karczewski wrote;
fm: > No one is coming for me so your silly point is moot.
fm: > You, on the other hand, you have been drug off to jail on a number of occasions because you commit crime.
rk: The STATE OF OREGON and COUNTY OF JOSEPHINE have indeed kidnapped me and held me hostage as a surety for the fictitious unlawful "color of law" crimes of their own created fictitious STRAWMAN which was convicted, but Goliath was once again defeated by the pebble of Truth as evidenced by their throwing me out of their jail after threatening me with 35 years in prison.
fm: > You are a convicted felon seven times over because you were found guilty in a court of law of numerous crimes.
rk: Au Contraire: If what you say is true, then why am I not in Jail? TheTruh of the matter is their sham trials convicted their created Strawman which had been converted to my Trademark/tradename. The sham court proceedings lacked the nexus to link such fictitious strawman to this Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural Man who stands as Secured Party/Creditor and holds supreme claim over the Strawman, In other words, "all the Kings horses and all the Kings men" failed to prove Jurisdiction over me , thus negating any prior government claim they man have previously had as creditor over the commercial debts of the defendant.
fm: > Yes, you have to worry about the cops coming for you because you are a criminal.
rk: You government/media disinformation agents are barking up the wrong tree. Your fictitious Color of Law argument does not stand up when applied to a Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural Man, who operates at full legal capacity and cannot be presumed by the court to be appearing in the diminished capacity of a Ward of the State, in other word a slave of the State..
fm: > As far as Ed and Elaine are concerned, they do NOT have the right to defend themselves with pipe bombs and as a result of their foray into their own criminal enterprise, THEY are now convicted felons.
rk: They have the right to protect themselves with any means available or necessary. Since such legislative "Color of law" Corporate rules and regulations do not apply to non-corporate. non-consentual Sovereign People such as Ed and Elaine Brown, who have not granted jurisdiction to the Corporate State, Ed and Elaine Brown are thus being held UNLAWFULLY, just as I was by the STATE OF OREGON and COUNTY OF JOSEPHINE, until the question of the Court's JURISDICTION has been established in writing and accompanied by an affidavit from the Sentencing Judge.
rk: The Sovereign People are the Government, not the servants hired to carry out the will of the Sovereign People. America has been hijacked by It'sservant politicians and judges.
fm: > What is it with you and felonious associations, by the way? Shaun Kranish, another convicted felon. Stanley whats-his-name, another convicted felon.
rk: A better question is WHY ARE THEY NOT ARRESTING Shaun Kranish or myself for that matter, for communicating or associating with such apparent "Color of the Law" created FELONS. Could it be they would have to answer the question of JURISDICTION, and thus be exposed as the real criminals operating in America?
fm: > And to think, your whole life started coming apart at the seams because you got drunk and shot a mannequin. Now look at you, alone, homeless, and living in a bus.
rk: First thing first. First the American Sovereign People take back their country from Tyrants masquerading as public servants. Your time shall not be far behind.
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Posted:
Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:56 pm
Ray, you silly drama queen
Frightened Mannequin
Raymond Ronald Karczewski wrote;
fm: > No one is coming for me so your silly point is moot.
fm: > You, on the other hand, you have been drug off to jail on a number of occasions because you commit crime.
rk: The STATE OF OREGON and COUNTY OF JOSEPHINE have indeed kidnapped me and held me hostage as a surety for the fictitious unlawful "color of law" crimes of their own created fictitious STRAWMAN which was convicted, but Goliath was once again defeated by the pebble of Truth as evidenced by their throwing me out of their jail after threatening me with 35 years in prison.
fm: > You are a convicted felon seven times over because you were found guilty in a court of law of numerous crimes.
rk: Au Contraire: If what you say is true, then why am I not in Jail? The Truh of the matter is their sham trials convicted their own created Strawman which had subsequently been converted to my Trademark/tradename. The sham court proceedings lacked the nexus to link such fictitious strawman to this Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural Man who stands as Secured Party/Creditor and holds supreme claim over the Strawman, In other words, "all the Kings horses and all the Kings men" failed to prove Jurisdiction over me , thus negating any prior government claim they man have previously had as creditor over the commercial debts of the defendant.
fm: > Yes, you have to worry about the cops coming for you because you are a criminal.
rk: You government/media disinformation agents are barking up the wrong tree. Your fictitious Color of Law argument does not stand up when applied to a Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural Man, who operates at full legal capacity and cannot be presumed by the court to be appearing in the diminished capacity of a Ward of the State, in other word a slave of the State..
fm: > As far as Ed and Elaine are concerned, they do NOT have the right to defend themselves with pipe bombs and as a result of their foray into their own criminal enterprise, THEY are now convicted felons.
rk: They have the right to protect themselves with any means available or necessary. Since such legislative "Color of law" Corporate rules and regulations do not apply to non-corporate. non-consentual Sovereign People such as Ed and Elaine Brown, who have not granted jurisdiction to the Corporate State, Ed and Elaine Brown are thus being held UNLAWFULLY, just as I was by the STATE OF OREGON and COUNTY OF JOSEPHINE, until the question of the Court's JURISDICTION has been established in writing and accompanied by an affidavit from the Sentencing Judge.
rk: The Sovereign People are the Government, not the servants hired to carry out the will of the Sovereign People. America has been hijacked by It'sservant politicians and judges.
fm: > What is it with you and felonious associations, by the way? Shaun Kranish, another convicted felon. Stanley whats-his-name, another convicted felon.
rk: A better question is WHY ARE THEY NOT ARRESTING Shaun Kranish or myself for that matter, for communicating or associating with such apparent "Color of the Law" created FELONS. Could it be they would have to answer the question of JURISDICTION, and thus be exposed as the real criminals operating in America?
fm: > And to think, your whole life started coming apart at the seams because you got drunk and shot a mannequin. Now look at you, alone, homeless, and living in a bus.
rk: First thing first. First the American Sovereign People take back their country from Tyrants masquerading as public servants. Your time shall not be far behind.
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