Watch a Israeli-state supporter twist info. and squirm - Hi forum members, after my last response to E, I was a little surprised that I heard no more from him since. Hi A If you would like to have a more balanced understanding of the Palestinean/Israel conflict go to www.fact

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Hi forum members, after my last response to E, I was a little surprised that I heard no more from him since.

Hi A

If you would like to have a more balanced understanding of the Palestinean/Israel conflict go to www.factsandlogic.org . Let me know what you think.

E

Hi E,

I wanted to get back to you sooner and intended to write more though imagined I would be referring to more of the same ( I was surprised at how true it seems to be sticking to the Mossad motto : War Through Deception / 'By Way of Deception, Thou Shalt Do War' ). Thanks for sharing the site for my awareness. Here's some of my thoughts I jotted down while browsing the articles:

(During which I respond demonstrating many twists and lies in the articles (that I can briefly post if any further interest on the links I was reviewing))

Hi A

Thanks for your response. I'm wondering how much of the web-site you have read. These are extremely complex issues. Historically palestine has never been a country, and the palestinian people never existed. They are a mish-mash of the rejects of Egypt, Syria, Iraq, and Jordan after World War 2. We can discuss this subject when I see you . The biggest mistake we all make is to form conclusions based on incomplete, or inaccurate information, or preconceived ideas, non researched based. If the web-site is not able to help you, I probably won't be able to either. We all have this need to form conclusions about things. Sometimes the best conclusions is to stay neutral.

Hi E,

I'm open to hearing your version of history re: the topic; however, I do not see the reason for the violence against the "Palestinians", especially when the recently created state of Israel is armed to the hilt and so supported by people in the govt. of the U.S. (American tax dollars), and the Palestinians have rocks and relatively primitive means of defending themselves. To stay 'neutral' is basically ignorance in practice. If one is connected to life and sees how we're all connected to each other, one can easily see through any twisted claims for trying to justify war/violence as it is very obvious it is much more than 'the protective use of force without the intent to punish' ("Israel defending themselves").

(Hi ) A

With all do respect to you, your understanding of the Israel/Palestine situation is extraordinarly naive. For example you state that Israel was created by money-master-backed loans. All loans to countries are money master backed loans. What do you think the international monetary fund, and the world bank are. For that matter when you borrow money from your bank, your getting a money master backed loan. My suggestion is for you to throw your nonsense conclusions out the window, and for you to read everything on the facts and logic web-site. Now their are a lot of things you and I agree on with regard to other issues. Why not, you and I focus on that.

Hi E,

"All due respect". It is called 'problem, reaction, solution'/Hegelian dialectic/Order out of Chaos that the claim that 6 million Jews died in the 'Holocaust' which prompted the current creation of the state of Israel. From my recollection 99 +% of countries aren't subsidized specifically for people to populate an area, they generally arise because people are able to work with the natural resources of an area in a way that supports life. "All loans to countries are money master backed loans." Exactly, and the interest from those loans are going to a few people which are driving global direction. And, it explains if 'God of the Bible' is indeed the International Bankers, that there is a 'chosen people', a supported/funded group of people.