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Re: The Problem With Ray Karczewski, A Christ, As Experienced via the Satanic Intellect of Ignoramuses.
Asterion wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
September 04, 2008, 03:28:37 PM »
a: > I think the problem we have with copyrighting names is that no one else would be able to use the name, only the registered user, i.e. if someone called John Smith decided to do what Ray purports to have done,
rk: There is no problem with Ray. There is a problem only with all those who don't understand what they are talking about.
rk: Such speculation abounds and is based on one's conditioned ignorance.
rk: All are born with a given name spelled in Capital and Lower Case letters.
rk: At the time of birth when the mother signs the registration of birth bearing the newborn's name, such name is then counterfeited by the State. On the subsequent Birth Certificate, the name is spelled in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS. Presently, such newbirths are also given Social Security Numbers. At that moment the fictional JURISTIC PERSON is born and becomes the property of the state. Its status is that of a debtor, to the Creditor State.
rk: The mother, unknowingly, through such voluntary registration has sold her child into bondage. Hence thereafter, The State Has prior Claim and Jurisdiction over the life-long labor and possessions of the debtor JURISTIC person (the newborn) while the mother has custodial rights over the child. Mother and Father HAVE BEEN SCHNOOKERED. Mother and Father are also owned by the State via their JURISTIC NAME via the same Satanic mechanism.
rk: In Truth, the State has no claim over any "Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, natural man, woman or child, but does have jurisdiction over the Fictional Juristic Name spelled in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS which appear on all contracts, licenses, etc. Signing your real name on all contracts, licenses, application etc. stand as proof of surety over the debts of the debtor JURISTIC PERSON via the consent of the Signator. .
rk: Such has been, and continues to be the massive Government scam perpetrated upon the average Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural Man or woman. It is all done via the Satanic legal presumption that the latter is acting as surety for the debts of the Debtor Jurisitic Person. That is how people can be fined, jailed, imprisoned, their liberty Stripped away, Their Freedom denied. Their lives taken away, all because of an UNCONTESTED legal presumption.
rk: That is how men and women can be OWNED BODY AND SOUL BY THE STATE. It is all done via the consent of the signator.
rk: Any and all contracts made without full disclosure of all the terms of the contract are, by law, null and void, and can be unilaterally broken, and supreme claim over the Juristic Person can be reasserted by the Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural Man or Woman, VIA COMMON LAW COPYRIGHT ( Not to be confused with Corporate Copyright legislative Color of Law)
rk: That is the common law remedy which returns one to his/her full legal status and restores one's status as Creditor over One's Debtor, Juristic Person. The State no longer has prior claim as it once had when operating as Creditor over the Debtor Juristic Person.
rk: That is the nature of Restoration of Freedom to any Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural Man or Woman who is possessed of Natural Intelligence, NOT Satanically conditioned intelligence.
rk: That is why this Christ, (simple man of Truth) remains a Free Man, while the State of Oregon and County of Josephine, maintains two convictions over the JURISTIC PERSON, RAYMOND RONALD KARCZEWSKI. yet they THREW ME OUT OF THEIR JAIL, when I held their feet to the fire and demanded they prove JURISDICTION over this Living Breathing, Flesh-and Blood, Sentient, Natural Man, and they REFUSED to follow existing law and do so, preferring to HIDE BEHIND A STONEWALL OF SILENCE. See: http://www.arkenterprises.com/index11.html
Learn from a FREE MAN how you too, can be FREE.
a: > what happens to all the other John Smiths? Are they required then, by law, to change their name? Imagine the problems of naming babies - it would be worse than trying to think up a new web site address.
rk: See what is meant, by the term, " ignorant speculation?"
rk: Why Indeed? Could it be Traditional, conditioned ignorance considered to be normal thought engaged in by the Spiritually Blind who have eyes that do not see, and ears that do not hear. . And so are burdened throughout life in navigating through a maze of satanic obstacles via blind, computer like programmed thought conditioned into them by remote Satanic controllers?.
rk: Many are called but few are chosen. The vast legions of Satanic minions take great pride in defending their ignorance. The state of Man's world bears testimony to that fact. Hell, isn't it?
Re: The Problem With Ray Karczewski, A Christ, As Experienced via the Satanic Intellect of Ignoramuses
Kokomojo wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
For more than a decade, I, and my family have been attacked roundly by Government/Media, anonymous disinformation agents who hide behind a multitude of aliases while they ply their deceptive trade.
They attack, deceive, misdirect, malign, libel, forge and bait me with endless questions that exact reams of responses, any part of which may be isolated, twisted, and misquoted out of context as coming from me. I do not engage in such activity. I merely Mirror It and continue on my way.
The inarguable evidence of what I say must be observed beyond the limitation of words seen on a computer screen.. The government of the State of Oregon and Josephine County, orignially threatened me with 35 years of prison, but would drop it all and release me for time served (128 days total) if I would Cop a Plea, and accept 2 year offer of probation.
I refused the offer, went through two Trials. stood Sui Juris, challenged Jurisdiction, which they refused to answer, yet the black robed Pharisees repeatedly committed the crime of Fraud by pursuing to try a Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural Man, one whom was beyond their limited Maritime Law Administrative Corporate Court Jurisdiction.. My motion for discovery was not honored by the courts as is the right to anyone standing trial.
, I was not allowed to present my evidence, I was not allowed to present some subpoenade witnessess while the prosecution had free reign to present anything they wished with the blessing of the judges.
Throughout some 21 hearings and two trials, My demand for proof of Jurisdiction was evaded by ALL JUDGES. When the Juristic Person was Convicted (they would not address the nexus with which they attempted to link me with the Juristic Person through presumption) and they attempted to impose an offer of Probation on me, I refused to accept their offer which would have been my consent for such unlawful legal impositions and thus grant them jurisdiction over this Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural Man..
Hence, from 35 years in prison to 0 time (most of the 128 days of incarceration were awaiting trial) I now sit here in my home a Free Man, and they still will not answer the questions of JURISDICTION under oath or affidavit, even onto this day. This issue of JURISDICTION of the Laws of Mammon, over a man who lives by God's Law, will open the flood gates of presently imprisoned American Citizens now languishing in Jail through the same Satanic tactics which were used on me.
What puzzles me to the nth degree is the resistance of masses of people, now enslaved at the mercy of a Tyrannical government who side with their Slave overseers against the clear and unambiguous solution of a Simple Man oF Truth, offering them the key to Freedom and Sovereignty IN THEIR LIFETIME.
If that does not stand as PROOF, what the Hell does? If refusal to see such simple solution to the Tyrannical New World Order, WHAT THE HELL DOES?
By the way Kokomojo, If I responded to you in a way that you felt was unjust, I apologize. I give short shrift to disinformation agents who can display charm in one moment, when they are seducing, and animalistic when they go on their "pack-0-jackals, libelous attack.
I point to my website links for the answers to the questions which can liberate the average man/woman from their enslavement, but the average man/woman does not want to do the work. They want it given them on a "silver platter." To accomadate them would be a disservice to them, as they MUST UNDERSTAND what they are doing when they step into the den of legal vipers, todays, courtrooms. The material presented must not merely be retained and regurgitated as if you were facing a quick quiz on Friday during your school days. Unfortunately, such regurgitated "Jeopardy" ignorance passes off as intelligence these days.
Yes, I do "piss" people off, as I do not pander to their face-saving demands.
From: Big.Fat.Raymond.Sings.2008@googlemail.com wrote
bfr: > Ray is mentally ill, he has been for a very long time. He has spent time in mental hospitals in Oregon, California, even in Illinois when his parents discovered that Ray was molesting chickens from a nearby farm.
rk: Talk is cheap. Produce documented evidence of such libelous statements.
bfr: > The owner caught Ray in the act behind his chicken coup, had Ray arrested, the police contacted Ray's parents, and they agreed to send him to Chicago State Hospital for psychiatric treatment.
rk: I was born and raised in South Chicago, an urban area. Never lived on a farm, Never was committed to Chicago State Hospital, (Such hospital has NEVER EXISTED.) Chicago is a City, not a State.
bfr: > His daughter Kasia found all the paperwork years ago.
rk: I have no daughter named Kasia. That is one of the Fictitious Characters you government agents have conjured up in you libel campaign.
bfr: > Several years ago when he was in Salem State he was diagnosed with Anti-social Personality Disorder & Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder which compounded a Bipolar/Manic-Depressive diagnosis he has had since childhood.
rk: I never have been treated for mental disorder. Never confined to the hospital your refer to: Salem State or any other mental hospital. As said earlier, one can say anything they want on the Internet while hiding behind an alias, and offering not evidence of such libelous statements.. It is only the gullibility and lack of discernment of the average, generally dumbed down public unable to see that simple fact, which accounts for their loss of freedom, their enslavement through Satanic mind control. . Why don't you reveal your true identity to back up your words and and document your statements.
rk: BETCHA WON'T DO IT???
rk: My question of 'WAR ON YOU FORUM" Moderator. Why do you offer an unimpeded platform for such continued Libel to continue?
rk: My question of 'WAR ON YOU FORUM" Moderator. Why do you offer an unimpeded platform for such continued Libel to continue?
Raymond Ronald Karczewski
t: >> I must say that this is a valid concern simply because this 'bfr' persona seems to spew at length on about these sick accusations about you with no valid proof and so forth.
t: >> I also strongly urge that he reveals who he (bfr) really is if he doesn't have an agenda, or if he continues, provide REAL PROOF, etc. I don't expect that he would as that would show what he is about.
bfr: > Is everyone going to post under their true name and send a sworn affidavit with a notarized copy of their primary government issued identification to the moderator?
bfr: > Ray, by his own admission on his website and public records is a convicted felon.
rk: Not so! Were I a convicted Felon, I would be in Prison now. Not free and at home. The fictitious Juristic Person was convicted. The Courts refused to establish JURISDICTION over this Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural Man thus creating a nexus between the True Man acting as surety for the Fictional Juristic
Person. That's why I am not in Prison while thousands of other are. They have been inducted into the Prison Labor Force and are being Traded on the Market as Slave Laborers. I exposed the fraud of the Judicial System in America, and they, the black-robed pharisees, and crooke politicians are all hunkering down behind a STONEWALL
OF SILENCE because of the action of ONE SIMPLE MAN OF TRUTH..
bfr: > Ray, by his own admission on his website most certainly DID send a bill to Jamie Eckles for 1.5 billion dollars because Jamie repeated Ray's name a number of times in a Usenet post.
bfr: > I do have a copy of the old Dunning Asylum paperwork where Ray was committed as a teen for molesting poultry and it reflects his manic depressive diagnosis, his lithium prescription as treatment, and a set of pennicillin shots for a virus he contracted from the poultry. I have to fly to Seattle for a couple days, I'll dig through my email and post a copy when I get back. I emailed Kasia back when she posted about Ray and she scanned the document and emailed it to me. Dunning Asylum is what Chicago State Hospital used to be called, and Ray lied when he claimed their never was a hospital by that name.
rk: So your computer research skills pulled up information that in the 20 years of my living in Chicago from birth on, never heard of such a place called "Chicago State Hospital. The nearest mental hospital to Chicago was located in Kankakee Illinois..
bfr: > There are no links to mental hospital records, such stays are confidential and the government cannot disclose them, but family members can such as Kasia did.
rk: Produce the birth certificate of "kasia" purporting to link such impostor to be my Daughter, before you post her phony records of such hospital. Anita and I had three children, Kathryn, Lisa, and David. Their pictures can be seen on my Photo Page
http://www.arkenterprises.com/transits.htm Guess what? NO KASIA!!
bfr: > There was an old newspaper article from the Pacifica Tribune that stated Ray was committed there for evaluation after he shot a mannequin in a discount store. It was so old it had to be retrieved from the paper's morgue so the article was originally scanned and
posted as an image somewhere. Google for it.
rk: Produce it yourself! You're the one committing the libel.
rk: Try this link to see the viciousness of bfr and his disinformation cohorts. Pay particular attention to the response of one man who actually contacted the Pacifica Tribune and Ely Times and was told NO SUCH ARTICLES EXISTED thereby debunking the Ed Wilkinson libelous campaign. See:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.gossip.celebrities/browse_thread/thread/2929a2f27af1416d
bfr: I truly don't care if you believe me. Ray knows I'm telling the truth, that is why he is so pissed off about it.
rk: That's pretty weak, is it not?. Something a child or a guttersnipe disinformation agent would say, certainly NOT A MAN ACTING RESPONSIBLY.
rk: Produce the EVIDENCE wherein you claim Raymond Karczewski to be :
1. bfr: > A mentally ill, stark raving bonkers convicted felon (Explaing then why am I free and not in prison?)
2 .bfr >Do not forget pedophile, drug addict, chronic alcoholic, anti-semite, racist, wife beater, and mannequin assassin.
rk: (got a momentum going, doncha? Now produce the evidence to back up such statements which are not manufactured by yourself and other disinformation agents)
3: rk: Post the headers of the articles containing the following statements. THEY ARE FORGERIES. The posting of Headers will show that. They are such an extreme contrast from my manner of expression that no reasonable individual can buy such a lie. But then again Americans support a war they don't want, and cannot control their servant government and consent to their own slavery via the NEW WORLD ORDER. So much for reasonable individuals, eh?
bfr: >> "it was the morphine that helped me to experience the
epiphany that led to discovering not only that I AM A CHRIST, but also
that I AM JESUS OF NAZARETH REINCARNATED.", Raymond Karczewski
bfr: >> "I am retired, I have no need to report to a job like the
rest of you Braindead Satanic Slaves, why shouldn't I drink my fill?",
Raymond Karczewski
bfr: >> "Goddamned Satanic jews have filled the world with mud
children who have further dilluted the gene pool", Raymond Karczewski
bfr: >> "Niggers and other simian species are produced when white
women mate with Satanic jews.", Raymond Karczewski
bfr: >> "When Ray beat me to within an inch of my life, my brother in law Abraham gave me the courage to leave him.", Anita Karczewski
bfr: >> "I once ... shot a mannequin while working as a security
guard at Pacifica based establishment", Raymond Karczewski
bfr: >> Specific links for the discerning reader
bfr: >> So many articles, so little time
The many arrests of Raymond Karczewski
http://tinyurl.com/588qmr
Source: Josephine County Jail Guard, 2007
Karczewski beats wife, kills neighbor's pet goat
http://tinyurl.com/56fhrq
bfr: > Source: Raymond Karczewski himself
A spammed archive of 9 articles he has authored
rk: I authored NO SUCH ARTICLES. THEY ARE FORGERIES.
http://tinyurl.com/695thg
Quick index of articles (letter case unedited)
"The Holy Scripture of God, God as He is presently known, Lord Raymond of Cave Junction"
"Instructions for Erecting Houses of Worship in MY HOLY NAME"
"CHRISTHOOD 101: I AM JESUS OF NAZARETH REINCARNATED!!"
"AN NWO EVENING OF SATANIC IGNORANCE: PROOF THAT THE WORLD HATES A CHRIST"
"CHRIST ARRESTED FOLLOWING DIVINE JOURNEY, HOLY MISSION"
"SATANIC JEWISH NEW WORLD ORDER: SATAN COMES HOME TO ROOST!!"
"IMPOTENT, PARCHIAL, SATANIC DISINFORMATION PIPSQUEAKS LIBEL
CHRIST;
DEMAND NON-EXISTENT MODERATORS IN UNMODERATED NEWSGROUPS CENSOR A CHRIST AND INFRINGE UPON HIS (MY) FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH ON THE INTERNET!!"
"atan and his Minions create Hell Earth"
"INCREMENTAL ESCALATION OF SATANIC CENSORSHIP BY PAROCHIAL
LEFTIST FORUM MODERATORS"
rk: Attention "WAR ON YOU" Forum Moderator. DO YOU JOB!! Hold your subscribers responsible for their libels!! The credibility of your Forum depends on it.
Asterion: STUPID OR DISINFORMATION AGENT -- What is It??
rk: Asterion, you are either a STUPID individual or a disinformation agent misdirecting public attention away from the government/media mind control campaign going on right under their noses.
Rabbit Trails created by Government/Media Disinformation Agent bfr to cover his tracks.
rk: Then check out citizen cains tracing of the Server Used to China used by bfr When the hell are you folks going to wake up to such mind control tactics used right under your noses.
Re: The Problem With Ray Karczewski, A Christ, As Experienced via the Satanic In
Ray & bfr...
Are you both so insensitive that you think it's fair game to use someone elses POLITICAL Forum site as a chat room to carry on some childish swings & round-abouts game which will never be settled in a month-of-Sundays? It gets very tedious watching you both go over the same old ground, day in & day out!
Well you both know that most (if not all) other forum Mods would have banned you by now but, the moderator of this site is different - you must have learned that by now - & YOU ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE!
Do you realise that the owner of this SMALL, site is paying a web host & (more likely than not) losing members who don't wish to witness this farce which is unrolling before their eyes! Have you not realised that interest has waned in the topics you are both posting in?
Do the right thing, think about the effects of your actions on others before continuing this charade, then either join in or opt out!
Asterion replies:
« Reply #19 on: Today at 04:21:37 PM »
Reply with quoteQuote
You are much more insensitive & self-centred than I thought, Ray.
rk: You just confirmed it. You're a Disinformation Agent to have responded with such a say nothing comment in response to the question of whether you are STUPID or a DISINFORMATION AGENT.
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