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NOTE: All is not what IT appears on Patriot Radio, specifically when it comes to Alex Jones and Company. Read the following. It might open your eyes. RK
As most Republic Broadcasting Network radio talk show listeners are aware of by now, popular talk show host Greg Szymanski was removed forcibly from the air midshow by John Stadtmiller, owner of RBN yesterday April 23, 2007. . See details at: http://www.arcticbeacon.com/ " Greg thrown off the air by Vatican-led NWO agents in control of alternative media!!!"
I have written a number of articles in the past exposing Alternative Patriot Radio Talk show tactics which are no different from Mainstream Radio Talk show tactics in controlling and censoring callers who are invited to call and participate in the progam. I have observed long and hard, suspending judgement on what I was seeing unfolding on RBN, particularly when it came to owner of RBN John Stadtmiller. John's radio personna is one of a patient Interviewer and exudes friendliness and charm (unlike his off-air rude behavior my wife experienced when calling RBN to advertise my books and tapes). I listened and listened further to give Patriot Radio and John Stadtmiller the benefit of the doubt.
My original excursion into dealing with New World Order-serving Loyal Opposition Broadcasters began in 1994. It is recorded as "Media Unmasked" Re: Roy and David Masters http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch125.html#Media
Greg Szymanski's popular "Voices for Freedom" gave his listeners an opportunity to express themselves in a 1-minute time spot in return for a donation to support RBN (Republic Broadcasting Network). Twas an advertising invitation which would benefit both the voiceless public and RBN radio network. I had participated in an early Szymanski's "Voices for Freedom" campaign and was quite satisfied with the experience.
However, I got the feeling my present message "I AM A CHRIST" See: http://www.arkenterprises.com/achrist.html was not about to see the RBN airwaves this time around. My message is simple. We are All Christs, simple, Sovereign, Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural men and women, Sons and Daughter of Divine Intelligence -- God.
This follows John's earlier rude behavior to my wife and rejection of my books and tapes for advertising on the RBN web site.
Anita, my wife, sent a check for $100 to air the "Voices for Freedom" recording and it was cashed on 3-15-07. A contract was struck.
The religionists, the politicians and their banker/corporate Satanic Patrons DO NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW your true Status, your True Estate -- that THEY ARE FICTIONS WHILE YOU ARE REAL. If you understood my simple message "I AM A CHRIST" http://www.arkenterprises.com/achrist.html and acted upon it NOW in your life, we, the Sovereign People, would BREAK THE BACK OF SATANIC MIND CONTROL, REMOVE THEIR DEATH-BOUND INFLUENCE OVER US IN OUR LIVES, AND LIVE THE LIFE THAT AWAITS US -- AS THE MEEK WHO SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH. We would no longer live the lives of helpless "MUNCHKINS" at the mercy of the Wicked elitists who rule the LAND OF OZ, the land of Illusion.
Following is a chronological synopsis of the events which lead up to April 23rd, the day my "Voices for Freedom" message was to appear on Greg's Show -- http://www.arkenterprises.com/achrist.html The Message they don't want you to hear..
3-5-07 Ray to Greg:
Greg,
If you are still offering messages as your Voices of Freedom feature, I've put together a new site, and have distilled my messages and experiences, separating them from the Noise which has stalked it everywhere I went on the Internet.
The message is timely, and yes, you and I are STILL going in the same direction.
Let me know what the rate is to post it for a month, and the check will be in the mail.
Thanks
Ray
3-19: Greg to Ray Ray...please send your one minute and 30 second clip again and I need to get it to RBN...thanks
3-22: Ray to Greg: By the way, whats the hangup with the sound file? Nows the time to pull it all together and break the back of Government Tyranny.
4-2-07 Greg to Ray: please send another audio version of your message as I sent it to RBN and they misplaced...i will get on it this week and start airing message next week...i have been out with dental surgery...
4-2-07 Ray to Greg: Greg, Here is the Resend!! Third time!! Shape those guys up at RBN
4-6-07 Greg to Ray: sent audio clip to RBN and should start playing your voices of freedom by mid week...i also will put an audio link on my web site...thanks again and sorry for delay but i have had some dental problems
4-17-07 Greg to Ray: Ray, I am going to start to play it next Monday.(Apr. 23, 2007) ..please send another copy...there will be no problem with Stadtmiller...trust me we will get it going as I left it off the air as I have been battling dental surgery and wanted to make sure I was live five days a week before I started playing it...thanks for your patience
4-17-07: Ray to Greg: I'm glad you clarified that. I was truly concern about RBN's motives. I wanted to get it on to reinforce support for Ed and Elaine Brown before their Sentencing hearing. Greg there a momentum building on that program that is found nowhere else on RBN. John Stadtmiller can't be that blind to keep beating that dead horse of ORGANIZE, ORGANIZE ORGANIZE. Here's another copy. of the sound file. Ray
For me, the veil has been lifted, and all parties stand in the light of Truth. All is not what it appears to the SHEEPLE who look for guidance and Truth from their celebrity ICONS on Patriot Radio. They are kept divided and conquered by the leadership, friend and foe alike. Sort of Satanic Damned if you do and Damned if you don't, eh?
If you think I have colored my position, and have exaggerated in this article, please read the following and re-ask yourself: WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE? Until each of you understand your True Estate as Sovereign People and trust yourselves instead of Public Relations Expert Spin Doctors, you shall NEVER know freedom in this lifetime.
I have been at this Awakening of my blind brothers and sisters since 1993. I'm still at it, but I am still standing ALONE, having acted with NO SUPPORT from many who have said they are behind me, but when it comes to actively standing with me in EXPOSING Satanic Government, they are nowhere to be seen.
My Spiritual Brother and Sister, Ed Brown and his wife Elaine are experiencing the same thing. Granted they have many who profess to be behind them now but will they be there when it comes time to act?
Here are some sound files which expose your favorite talk show hosts for what they truly are. WAKE UP AMERICA.
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Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:49 am
Re: Disinformation 101
Lisa Heathman wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 07:07:06 GMT
rk: NOTE: Lisa Heathman is my daughter. She, as well as my wife and I have been under attack by the same libeling Disinformation Agents I have been writing about on the Internet for years. I am posting her comments on these newsgroups/forums because of the false statements spread over the net concerning the alienation of my children and the three main themes of libel, all of which are traced to disinformation agent ed wilkinson.
rk: At a picnic at a Grants Pass Oregon park in July of 1997, I told the story to ed wilkinson (the one and only in-person contact I have ever had with wilkinson) of when my children reached the age of majority and they were on their own, Anita and I sold our business and our home in Pacifica California and RETIRED. I sold my business and retired fully in 1982.
rk: At the same time at the picnic, I told ed wilkinson (and only ed wilkinson-no other to my recollection) the story of the job applicant, who, during an interview with me while applying for a job with my Private Security Company told me of his experience of shooting a mannequin on the graveyard shift at a major San Francisco Mall while he was employed with a rival company. Needless to say, I did not hire the man. I told the story to wilkinson while discussing the state of the security business in recruiting competent people.
rk: This was before I learned of wilkinson's ties with the Feds, Intelligence community, and media although I knew of his family's and his personal cult ties with Roy Masters, Southern Oregon Cult Leader, Mind control expert and Radio talk show personality and Station Owner.
rk: There have been three main themes which have fueled an organized campaign to libel me which persist to this very day on these Internet newsgroups/forums.
rk: The libelous smears range from being a child molestor/abuser, an alcoholic, drug user, sex pervert who has abused, driven away and alienated my children, to shooting mannequins and being forceably retired on a mental disability retirement from the Pacifica Police Department (I was retired on a back injury), to being a welfare drain (my police retirement) and a fugitive criminal on a crime spree wanted in three states.
rk: NONE OF THESE VICIOUS ATTACKS UPON MY REPUTATION AND CHARACTER ARE TRUE! NONE!!!
rk: My experiences with the Roy Masters family of the smear campaign when I purchased advertising time on their radio station KOPE, were followed by similar techniques attacks when I began to write on the Internet. It led to my FBI Demand for an Investigation into Government/Media/Intelligence Community sponsored/supported Disinformation campaign launched against myself and the unwary computer using American public. See: http://www.petitiononline.com/RayNita1/petition.html
rk: ALL THREE THEMES ARISE SOLELY from Former Grants Pass Businessman Ed Wilkinson, formerly of Digital Arts, 880 NE 7th St., Grants Pass, OR 97526,(541) 479-8756, 1-800-446-8756, formerly of dgtlarts@cdsnet.net, (Agent Sir Ed) nope@nospam.com, agent_sir_ed@hotmail.com, former Arms Dealer, former self-professed Journalist, former Member of Oregon Republican Party Central Committee, also known as Mr. Ed, aka Sir Ed, aka Oregon Ed, aka Ray Kargoofy, aka (LIghtColonel Meepzorp-Bazza, SAIC), aka Raymond Karscrewloose, AND NO OTHER.
rk: With regards to the investigation into the government/media disinformation Internet campaign A COVERUP IS UNDERWAY, from the Federal Government down to the Josephine County Sheriffs office.
rk: GOVERNMENT WILL NOT TOUCH THIS CASE WITH A TEN FOOT POLE.
rk: I stand alone and I wonder about my fellow man and the death of this Constitutional Republic because men have lost their backbone, their courage to stand in the face of Tyranny.
rk: Following is my daughter Lisa's reply to the contents of the original thread of Disinformation 101. Pay heed to her comments for her words are True.
lh: This is so disturbing, thinking that a person who taught me to treat everyone else with respect (although I believe there it a caveat), would be quoted with this bullshit.
lh: The caveat is and always was what is known as the Golden Rule. You have always lived and instilled in me to treat others as you would want to be treated.
lh: I still live by that - you have NEVER made the statements attributed to you in my lifetime. You have strong opinions that some take offense to, but if they knew their English language they cannot possibly take offense.
lh: Your "offensive" words are "ignorant" = lacking of knowledge (who isn't ignorant of something?) and "imbecile" = fool or idiot.
lh: Ignorance can lead to imbecility (if nothing is learned) and that offends "whomever" interprets your writings. But I can attest to the fact that you have never insulted, defamed, libeled or slandered anyone.
rk: Today, Feb 6th 2005, is the Eighth day of the NATIONAL CONSUMER BOYCOTT giving Americans the opportunity to take back control over their country and their lives through participation. See: http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch121.html#BOYCOTT
rk: FREEDOM LOVING AMERICANS, THE TIME FOR TALK IS OVER! LET YOUR ACTIONS COME FROM THE HEART, NOT your doubting SATANIC INTELLECT, and indeed, "The Meek Shall Inherit the Earth."
rk: P.S.: Attach the following SIGNATURE to all of your Internet Messaging. Let every person you know understand what is available to him/her in this historical NONVIOLENT REVOLUTION.
rk: The Voting Booth HASN'T DONE IT. The Jury Box WON'T DO IT. Don't BET YOUR LIFE on the CARTRIDGE BOX either.
RK: DO IT NONVIOLENTLY WITH: BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT!!
TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY -- STOP THE TALK, NOW WALK THE WALK! NATIONAL CONSUMER BOYCOTT TAKE-BACK BEGINS FEBRUARY 1, 2005 Spread The Word Throughout America! IT'S NOW OR NEVER!! http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch121.html#BOYCOTT
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Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:58 pm
Re: John and Alex soundbyte: Thanks for saying something that stimulated Alex to announce his belief in Jesus, as I can now consider that when I listen to other stuff he says.
Re: John soundbyte on boycotting: I love your message of 'boycott', because I see it as so powerful and hope that others that listened were able to hear what you were saying. I wish that instead of ending where it did, he allowed time for you to respond to his last comment. I also enjoyed how you started that phone call, as I was imagining people in their cars, homes, etc. were like, 'Who the F.. is this guy? He sounds so sure of himself, so clear; and the host is quiet' and were hooked into listening, because it is rare to hear anything like this on the air usually.
Re: Alex soundbyte: Sounds like Alex couldn't hang.
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Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:47 am
John and Alex soundbite.....................That was the first time I heard that one and I connected a lot of dots for myself about Alex. There have been so many times that I have felt uncomfortable listening to his show. The talk is circular as Ray pointed out, without much talk of solutions. Of course when the talk is circular, it is a stirring motion that only stirs people up. I think we have to suggest all kinds of non-violent solutions.
I too have felt that when Alex starts yelling and ranting he is just adding more fear to the mix.....one of the reasons why I listen to Michel Chossudovsky to get my information. He informs without stirring up fear, and for me fear only freezes most people into inaction. I prefer to be a little angered/outraged at the criminal activities of this administration...........it motivates me into some sort of non-violent action.
Then of course if we did start getting results with our boycotting solutions, Alex might be out of a job.
I had to ask myself why he seemed so threatened by the suggestion of boycotting and that people had to take their sovereignty back.
His misinformation, saying that Ray claimed to be Jesus Christ was a smear tactic..... to discredit Ray. It was so obvious that Alex is terribly threatened by Ray.
I am not at liberty to say who, but someone who you all know and feel has great credibility once said that he felt that Alex was part of the whole deal. That he was allowed to run his program because it helped release a lot of pent up anger that might erupt in a violent way.
I noted that Alex Jones was in New York City on Sept 11 just before Ed and Elaine Brown were arrested on Oct 4th. I asked out loud why did Alex not take an extra day or so to go to Plainfield and visit with the Browns. This same person said it was because Ed would have seen right through him.
I agree that Christ, like Buddha, Gandhi, the Dali Lama and others are all simple men of truth. It is the distortion of the psychopaths/satanic mind control criminals who have corrupted their truths for their own agenda.
What was so shocking was when Alex said that Ray denied Jesus Christ...........that was total distortion. Ray's version of what Christ was is much purer and Alex could not see that. Alex's ego was so evident that he needed to control the situation with a smear/lie............it was rather shocking for me to hear him claim Ray's denial when that was totally opposite to Ray's meaning.
Alex is a bight man, I do not think for one minute that he did not understand exactly what Ray was saying. Now I have to wonder about his reaction.
The truth is that boycotting does work on a very profound level. Why do you think that the powers that be crucified Christ...........after all he was boycotting killing the enemy...........Gandhi and King. Their non-violent means were very threatening and had to be stopped.
The military industrial complex has to be threatened by non violent methods, who could they sell their weapons to if everyone on the planet boycotted wars!!!! Yeah, I'm a dreamer.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if they declared a war and no one came!
aa: > Thanks for saying something that stimulated Alex to announce his belief in Jesus, as I can now consider that when I listen to other stuff he says.
aa: > Re: John soundbyte on boycotting: I love your message of 'boycott', because I see it as so powerful and hope that others that listened were able to hear what you were saying.
rk: aa, the power of BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT, is found in its depth of nonviolence., Since it is nondualistic, it is Truth made manifest in relationship. It is the "Resist Not Evil" spirit of holistic energy which is eternally immune from violent, reactionary dualistic responses, found in the Satanic way of the world.
rk: That is why few understand my meaning. Their interpretive conditioned reactions stand as the barrier to their seeing the simple Truth of their inherent power as Sovereign, Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, natural men and women, Sons and Daughters of God.
rk: Many see me as an outsider imposing upon their cliquish existence. A loner, an interloper speaking a strange tongue, even though the words spoken are based in ordinary english language. It is the nondualistic energy, the power of Truth that affects the prideful images of the satanically conditioned mind, the NORMA mind.
aa: > I wish that instead of ending where it did, he allowed time for you to respond to his last comment. I also enjoyed how you started that phone call, as I was imagining people in their cars, homes, etc. were like, 'Who the F.. is this guy? He sounds so sure of himself, so clear; and the host is quiet' and were hooked into listening, because it is rare to hear anything like this on the air usually.
rk: There is nothing to sell when one speaks, lives and acts in Truth. In the common state of Illusion based intellectualism, a level of opposing consciousness ruled by Satanic Conditioning, everything must be bought and sold, for that is the nature of the world of commerce.
rk: I live a different life from civilized men. I live in Truth. Civilized men live in opposition, violence, competition, deception and illusion.
rk: I have no axe to grind. Jones, Stadtmiller and the like are trapped in the constant state of selling, persuading, manipulating, and so on, and as such are ruled by the vicissitudes of competition and celebrity.A simple man of Truth has no place is such worldly agendas.
rk: As such worldly men hear my words but do not understand them.
rk: I do not say this to attack these men. I say it because Truth demands the cessation of Hell, before Divine Intelligence can emerge.
rk: I hope your understand that the attacks, libels, defamation, censorship and smear campaign go with the turf of a Christ who shares truth with the satanically conditioned Profane.
rk: It is that simple Truth, which caused the State of Oregon, and County of Josephine Government and its courts of Mammon to be exposed to the world for their impotence when they were faced with a True, Sovereign, Son of God who "boycotted" them via a simple challenge of Jurisdiction..
Re: Alex soundbyte: Sounds like Alex couldn't hang.
rk: Alex Jones cannot tolerate the Mirror of Truth. He is the epitome of the Bully which he claims to oppose. It is that Mirror of Truth which he reacted to, and had to cut me off as his tools of command were impotent to deal with such simplicity.
rk: If one looks at his audience, they can be observed as microcosmic satanistic, remote controlled minions, confused, conflicted, looking for a savior, identifying with a greater image of what and whom they perceive themselves to be at the shallow depths of their conditioned being.
rk: You'll note that none of these celebrity saviors have been able to save the world. They merely manage contlict through persuasion and story telling. That is the satanic way which has ruled the world of illusion since Man's Fall from Grace. They only promote their vices which can be identified with by those who feel lost and victimized in their own personal lives.
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Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:04 pm
Hi Ray, I got lots of love for both you guys, Alex and you. Both dancing with your talents. Thanks for the opportunity for others to see, what I perceive as, the limitations of awareness that Alex was experiencing at the time of that audio.
I'm imagining that you'd feel a heck of a lot happier if Alex at least had accurately acknowledged what your message was in feeding back, even if he didn't agree? And, probably excited and hopeful if Alex, or another well known radio personality, would hear and get the awareness out as nation-wide as possible of your 'take simple, powerful, nonviolent action, easily'- message?
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