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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:00 am Reply with quote Back to top

"PROVE JURISDICTION--FREE WILLIE!!"

Arthur Cristian wrote:

Nigel Beckwith wrote:

Raymond Karczewski wrote:

ac: >> Nigel, you & Raymond have a lot in common, you were both cops.

nb: > Ok, interesting, was he pushed out like me?

rk: Yep! Twas a blessing in disguise. Welcome to the Club of ousted good officers, Nigel. By the way, the Oregon Authorities threatened me with 35 years as a Paper Terrorist. Juristic Person (STRAWMAN) was convicted in two trials. At sentencing, I refused to accept their offer of contract (sentencing) as they had not proved JURISDICTION in over 20 + hearings and two trials. They THREW ME OUT OF THEIR JAIL. They won't take me before a court again.

This is the question they will not answer: Does a Fictional Court have JURISDICTION over a Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural man or woman who has not waived their Rights, nor contracted or granted JURISDICTION to the Courts. They refused to answer it in 2002. They refuse to answer it TODAY. That is the issue NOW before the Portland Oregon Courts in the case of STATE OF OREGON vs William Kinney III©

That's the efficacy of the Sovereign Stance. Thousands of Innocent men and women languish behind bars because of such lawyerly trickery. Should the Portland Courts ANSWER that question, the "cat would be let out of the bag" and the court system with all its CORRUPTION WOULD CRUMBLE.

That is why I and others call for a MASSIVE PUBLIC MANDATE TO
"PROVE JURISDICTION -- FREE WILLIE!!"

Ray

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:52 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Prove Jurisdiction, Free Willie!!!

Willie Kinney III© wrote:

Raymond Ronald Karczewski© wrote:

wk: > The simple revelation in the law is this which has been the same trick used by GOVERNMENT since Jesus´ time.

wk: > We have been led to believe that our NAMES spelled in all CAPITAL
LETTERS are the same as our Signatures spelled with Upper Case and lower case letters. NAMES spelled in all CAPITAL LETTERS represent the GOVERNMENT-CREATED PERSON/ CORPORATION of you that came into existence at birth by way of your birth certificate.

wk: > Your Signature or Name spelled in Upper and lower case letters represent you as a flesh and blood Human Being. CORPORATIONS can only interact with other CORPORATIONS, and since the U.S FEDERAL GOVERNMENT is a CORPORATION it needs your Consent/ Signature of the flesh and blood self to agree to be in the GOVERNMENT-CREATED PERSON/CORPORATION in order to regulate/ control your every move.

wk: > Remember under natural law- what one creates, one controls. RULES, REGULATIONS, ACTS, STATUTES, CODES, POLICIES, ORDINANCES- are all CORPORATE FICTIONAL “COLOUR OF LAW” that can only regulate /control your GOVERNMENT- CREATED PERSON/ CORPORATION. The definition of “COLOUR OF LAW” is: it has the look and appearance of the law but it doesn’t necessarily have the same force and effect of the law. The definition of PERSON is: a CORPORATE FICTIONAL creation of the law that has similar rights and duties of a Human Being.


rk: William, Your comments are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. The STATE OF
OREGON COURTS went after me in 2002, turning a High Beam Violation into
threatening me with 35 years in prison. In 1999, I had RESCINDED my contract for a Driver License for Lack of Full Disclosure of all terms held back by the STATE. This VOIDED the license. They tried every trick in the book to enveigle me into GRANTING them JURISDICTION, just as they are doing to you now.


rk: They went through the same unlawful Mental Evaluation gambit with me also, but not via the STATE HOSPITAL. I refused to cooperate with the mental health evaluators, just as you are doing now yet their report to the court cleared me as lucid and intelligent. They, the courts railroading a fraudulent prosecution, CONVICTED the JURISTIC PERSON (STRAWMAN) in two trials. When they brought me, the Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural Man up for sentencing as a "presumed surety" and/or
underwriter for the debts of the JURISTIC PERSON DEFENDANT, I REFUSED to
ACCEPT their offer of sentencing as they could not/would not answer under oath or affidavit the question of JURISDICTION in approx 20+ pretrial hearings and two trials. Hence, no contract or consent was NEVER transferred to the Courts which would have GRANTED them the JURISDICTION they so badly needed TO DESTROY MY LIFE..


rk: That, plus two combined HUNGER STRIKES of 55 days CAUSED them to
THROW ME OUT OF JAIL with no CHARGES hanging over my head. They won't take me before the courts now.

rk: William, They had the guns, the handcuffs, the jail cells, the manpower, the APPEARANCE OF WORLDLY POWER, BUT I HAD THE ACTUAL POWER OF
LAW, GOD'S LAW, I DID NO HARM

rk: William, YOU SIT IN THE SAME POSITION OF POWER. The courts are under GREAT PRESSURE to answr the question of JURISDICTION-- WHICH THEY CAN'T, for the SCAM OF CREATING FORCED LABOR forces through Lawyerly chicanery would be EXPOSED TO THE WORLD..

rk: BE PATIENT. HOLD TO YOUR TRUTH. YOU WILL BE FREE SOON.

Raymond Ronald Karczewski©

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