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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:51 pm

JUDGE SINGAL, Answer the Question of Jurisdiction and Set Ed and Elaine Brown Free.

By Raymond Ronald Karczewski©

New postby wserra on Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:21 pm

The Observer wrote:It appears that the Browns didn't agree to be represented by attornies. They only agreed that the strawmen got representation. I can see Ed standing up in court and ranting about that when the verdicts come in.

I'm completely with Obs on this. I read the "Notice", then the resulting order appointing counsel, and the disconnect struck me immediately. Were I the judge, I would immediately schedule another conference to be held ASAP. The stupid games are not over, and the Court has quite limited discretion under Faretta.

rk: You folks JUST DON'T GET IT!! The court attempting to try Ed and Elaine is an UNCONSTITUTIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE COURT. based in Contract Law. It is not a legitimate Article III courts under the Constitution and therefore anyone forcibly brought before such court, who stands under the protection of the US Constitution and Common Law must either through IGNORANCE, be a 14th Amendment Slave, and therefore subject to the Corporate, "Color of Law" legislative policies of such a corporate court, and/or agree to such jurisdiction through consent or waiver of rights. That is the primary issue Ed and Elaine brings before the court. That issue of JURISDICTION must be answered by the Court before the court may continue with further proceedings. That is the present law the courts must follow: See Below

rk: Instead of addressing that fundamental question of a limited courts assuming jurisdiction over the objections of a Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural Man and Woman who have clearly stated they stand and find their Rights under Common Law and the US Constitution, the court continues to misdirect and confuse the issue through "legalistic" minutia, which has no bearing over anyone not subject to the limited jurisdiction of a Contract Administrative Court. Ed and Elaine Brown have made that position clear.

rk: Why do I speak so strongly on the law, when everyone else believes it to be crazy and I'm some kind of a nut. Simply because I am Free and you are slaves who believe yourselves free. Simply because I know better than most of you who are all talk and no walk. You see, the State of OREGON, and COUNTY OF JOSEPHINE Threatened me with 35 years as a "paper terrorist" filing liens against the Public Officials, i.e., Judges, Prosecutors, Sheriff deputies, etc, in an attempt to hold them responsible for their criminal behavior or release for time served and probation while awaiting Trial if I accept their "plea bargain."

rk: Lets see?? 35 years in prison, or Release? What to do? What to do? I rejected the plea bargain, stood Sui Juris in two trials. My Juristic Person (Strawman) was convicted in both trials, even though I challenged the court to prove JURISDICTION in some 20 plus appearances, and they refused to answer the questions. You see, Ed and Elaine's stance is pretty much the stand I took as reflected by their "paperwork."

rk: What happened? When it came time for sentencing, I REFUSED to accept the judges offer of sentence which would have been consummated as a contract thereby granting the court the jurisdiction it so badly needed.. My refusal was based on the fact that they had not Proven Jurisdiction over this Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural Man and therefore any determination by the unconstitutional contract court to which I did not consent to, was null and void.

rk: They put me back in the county jail trying to figure out what to do with me. What a dilemma. How could they save face? Finally they decided. They threw me out of Jail, Dropped me off at the curb of the Emergency room of the local hospital as the Jail Nurse Determined I was near death from the physical effects of a combined HUNGER STRIKE OF 55 days. No further jail time, No prison time, No probation, NO NOTHING. I continue to do the very same things for which they arrested me in 2002 but now THEY WILL NOT BRING ME BEFORE A JUDGE, THEY WILL NOT ARREST ME. If my actions were a crime then, why are they not treated as a crime NOW!

rk: Answer: BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION OF JURISDICTION.

rk: That is the only issue before the People of America who want to take their country and their freedom back.

rk: WAKE UP AMERICA! DISPELL the dream of Slavery that now binds your conditioned consciousness and return to your True Estate of Consciousness that makes you the Sovereign People that your Truly are.

rk: Rise up, if not for Ed and Elaine Brown, but for yourselves and your children. COMPEL Judge SINGAL to address the Question of JURISDICTION in writing as the present law States:

Existing Case law states: "Once jurisdiction is challenged, it must be proven." HAGENS vs LAVINE, 15 U.S. 533 "No sanctions can be imposed absent proof of jurisdiction." Standard v. Olsen, 74 S. Ct. 768; Title 5 U.S.C., Sec. 556 and 558 (b). "Where there is absence of
jurisdiction, all administrative and judicial proceedings are a nullity and confer no right, offer no protection, and afford no justification, and may be rejected upon direct collateral attack."
Thompson v. Tolmie, 2 Pet. 157, 7 L.Ed. 381; Griffith v. Frazier, 8 Cr. 9, 3L. Ed. 471. "The law provides that once State and Federal jurisdiction has been challenged, it must be proven." Main v. Thiboutot, 100 S. Ct. 2502 (1980).

rk: It is time to STOP the "legalese game" and Administer True Law.

rk: If Judge SINGAL or the Prosecuting Attorney answers the question under oath or affidavit, Ed and Elaine Brown WILL BE SET FREE, JUST AS I HAVE BEEN SET FREE!

Raymond Ronald Karczewski©