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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:13 pm Reply with quote Back to top

THE NOBODY AND THE SOMEBODY -- THE CHRIST AND THE CHRISTIAN

By the comments which arise to my communications on this forum, it is apparent that many of the subscribers do not understand where I am coming from, and more-so appreciate it less.

For those of you who are spiritual seekers, may I suggest you listen to my sound file "The Nobody and the Somebody -- The Christ and the Christian. It will give you insight into the differences experienced in consciousness between a consciousness which "understands", and the Intellect which "knows." Give it a listen at http://www.arkenterprises.com/nobody.html It goes to the heart of our communications.

This is submitted in order to bring us closer in understanding that which presently eludes most who read my comments..

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 1:18 pm Reply with quote Back to top

THE NOBODY AND THE SOMEBODY -- THE CHRIST AND THE CHRISTIAN

nelson wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:

n: >>> rk: >>>> By the comments which arise to my communications on this forum, it is apparent that many of the subscribers do not understand where I am coming from, and more-so appreciate it less.

n: >>> Au contraire, Ray. Most do understand where you're coming from. Therein lies the problem.

rk: >> See what I mean about one-liner, say-nothing responses? It isn't clever. It is cowardly, hypocritical and you speak for no one but yourself. . Ray

n: > Hypocritical, Ray?

n: > And all this time, I thought you knew what all those big words meant.

rk: Indeed Hypocrisy is defined as: "The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess -- Insincerity"

rk: One certainly cannot believe in that of which he is unable to express clearly. You and others practice the disinformation tactic of utilizing deceptive one-liner, say nothing cheap shots, all designed toward discreditation and misdirection. The average reader, lacking critical discriminative skills are putty in the hands of such mind-controlling disinformation agents.

rk: I have been stalked by these government/media disinfo agents for the last 12 years on the Internet, even to the point of my petitioning Congress to force the FBI to investigate mind control on the Internet. See: http://www.petitiononline.com/RayNita1/petition.html and http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/ ... RayNita1&1 It shows the disdain that these disinfo agents have for the public' level of intelligence.

rk: Check the number of groups and forums I have been kicked out of at http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm#CENSORED My removal from these groups can be traced to the same momentum now going on in this forum.

rk: I have come to realize that no popular usegroup or forum is free from the presence of such disinfo agents, They are assigned to cover so many groups and forums and their only purpose is to derail any serious dialogue from occuring which may result in a dramatic change from the status quo.

rk: I have been here but for a short time on the "I love Grant's Pass Forum" , yet several of the contributors including you, nelson, have intimated by your style as having prior knowledge of my writing before my subscription on this forum. You will note the intimacy of knowledge in understanding where I am coming from. Others can look at your other comments regarding my writing and see they have not gone beyond your deliberate one-liner vagueness. Why not attack my message with such certainty". Is it because disinformation cannot, and never will Trump Truth?

n: > But it did one thing, it evoked what was probably the shortest post you've made on this forum. And that's a good thing.

rk: That's right, keep em dumbed down, keep em ignorant, make such destructive level of consciousness into a virtue. That's the way to dumb down a populace, keep em confused yet prideful in their self-destructive intellectual limitation.

rk: I suspect the moderator will will lock this thread up because it doesn't fit in with the "MAYBERRY RFD" image it wishes to project.
They've already done it before. They removed an IMPORTANT article on the COMPREHESIVE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT" The true monies generated by Corporate Government which could fund the operation of government and alleviate the need for any taxes at all. The moderator said he removed my article because of attacks upon me by other subscribers. Does that make any sense to any of you? Threw the Baby our with the Bathwater, did he not?

rk: We are not living in fairy tale land folks. This is serious business. Any man willing to take the risk of speaking Truth runs the risk of Censorship and removal from easily controllable groups.. You have read my articles on this forum which largely go unanswered, These same subject contributions have been the source of all of the forums mentioned above which led to my being kicked off, after which the disinformation agents brag of their ability to pull the wool over the eyes of the forum moderators and its readership.

rk: You may not agree with anything I say. To you I say "Take it or leave it. But you see, that is not what is going on, is it? Unable to attack the message, disinformation agents must attack the messenger.

rk: Wake Up GRANTS PASS AND JOSEPHINE COUNTY.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:31 am Reply with quote Back to top

Re: THE NOBODY AND THE SOMEBODY -- THE CHRIST AND THE CHRISTIAN.

My message is directed to those who have the "eyes to see and ears to hear." To the rest who have condemned themselves to a life of servitude and stupidity, it is quite clear they haven't the capacity to receive what I am giving. They're just not ready for a simple man of Truth, a Christ as yet. If you folks "think" you aren't reflecting your stupidity in making excuses for your lack of spiritual awareness, look around at the world you have created for yourselves. You're just too damned dumb to acknowledge your part, your contribution in the co-creation of your world.

Have any of you noticed that not a word has been mentioned about the sound file which was the reason for this thread? Don't you see that all that has come from you is ignorance and pride?

Do You not see that you are of the Living Dead, Unwhole, fragmented, twisted and torn by your unexplored, not understood intellect. YOu are not masters of your own mind, your mind is master over you. That makes you a slave any way you want to cut it. You don't want truth. You can't handle Truth. You want to be schmoozed, stroked, entertained, you want to be pandered to, to be told you're ok when every sinew of your being cries out from the pain you are in. That, folks is symptomatic of STUPIDITY.

You will all get what you deserve. That is Spiritual Law.

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mankind, including JESUS CHRIST, has directly
revealed to the World the SATANIC WEAPON used to
enslave mankind -- INTELLECTUAL THOUGHT!!"

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:10 am Reply with quote Back to top

THE NOBODY AND THE SOMEBODY -- THE CHRIST AND THE CHRISTIAN

rk: > "Do You not see that you are of the Living Dead, Unwhole, fragmented, twisted and torn by your unexplored, not understood intellect. YOu are not masters of your own mind, your mind is master over you. That makes you a slave any way you want to cut it. You don't want truth. You can't handle Truth. You want to be schmoozed, stoked, entertained, you want to be pandered to, to be told you're ok when every sinew of your being cries out from the pain you are in. That, folks is symptomatic of STUPIDITY."

rk: "You will all get what you deserve. That is Spiritual Law"

These comments are directed toward the "IF THE SHOE FITS, WEAR IT CROWD." You know who you are.



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:50 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Re: THE NOBODY AND THE SOMEBODY -- THE CHRIST AND THE CHRISTIAN

New postby sassisue on Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:57 pm

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:

s: > Pffft! Out of respect for Tim and Openminded I won't say what I'd really, really like to say, especially after I did a little googling. Wow!

s: > It's best to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove ALL doubt. Mark Twain

rk: Gee, another one-liner, unsubstantiated innuendo from the "Peanut Gallery." You folks are pathetic. You are proving that you are incapable of expressing yourselves beyond one-liners. By the way, for those of you of the "Peanut Gallery" who reveal an incapacity to see, think, say or do anything of depth, your google search is likely to lead you astray, since the records in google are rife with forgeries written by Disinformation Agents in my name. The only place you will find the "nonforgeries" , the genuine articles written by me will be on on my website http://www.arkenterprises.com and its linked pages. However, I don't expect those who are joining the bandwagon, and making asses of yourselves (for time will reveal that) to support each other because none of you can really stand alone and face a Christ. You habitual state of confusion precludes you from discriminating which articles are valid and which are forged.

rk: Like I say, I write my articles to those who have spiritual eyes to see and ears to hear. That leaves most of you out.

rk: Not an attack. Just a simple fact.

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enslave mankind -- INTELLECTUAL THOUGHT!!"

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:13 am Reply with quote Back to top

Re: THE NOBODY AND THE SOMEBODY -- THE CHRIST AND THE CHRISTIAN

sassisue on Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:33 pm

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:


s: > Mr K, It's very hard to take a person seriously, when they claim to be a holy God.

rk: Point out where I have claimed to be a "holy God."

rk: What I have done, and your response bares that out, is that I have have exposed to you and others on this forum the massive Satanic mind control campaign which rules over the mass mind of millions and is triggered by the word "Christ."

rk: You have now been exposed to your own reaction to one who merely pointed out your hellish (accomplished through positive images) Christian conditioning and your satanic belief system is reeling with emotional defensiveness. Fess up sassisue, you are not even aware of it, are you?.

rk: Look at the title of this thread. It was a sound file offered in good faith with no strings attached, It is different from normal consciousness. That is quite clear. It opens the spiritual eye of satanically conditioned men and women and has a life-changing effect upon those capable of paying attention to their own satanically imposed reactions to it. Clarity, awareness, and attention are qualities of consciousness, clearly missing in a drug/alcohol infested society composed of dumbed-down populace.

rk: Now look at the responses to that original article. Do the responses even address that sound file? Have not the responses reflected the conflicted, confused, argumentative quality of minds possessed by you, nelson and everyone else WITHOUT EXCEPTION who don't even know what they are reacting to, otherwise they would express it?

rk: You folks are spiritually BLIND. You folks are spiritually UNAWARE. You are the Living Dead. You live in the past, in fantasy, unable to discern Truth from the Satanic reality which binds you. You folks are angry with me, but for what reason? Because I brought a message which exposes your Satanic ruled intellect? The fact that you don't understand my message is your problem, not mine.

rk: I don't argue with ignorant people. When they pridefully impose their unaware state through say-nothing cheap shots, I consider that to be an act of STUPIDITY.

rk: That fact that human stupidity is alive and well in civilized society and is considered to be NORMAL is testimony to the efficacy of Satanic Conditioning which is responsible for Hell on Earth.

s: > Statements like that bring on one liners. Do you honestly believe your a God?

rk: See above. I claim to be a Simple man of Truth, a Christ. Why does that disturb you so? Is it because it interfere with your fairy-tale mysticism laced belief system called Christianity?. Are you even aware that you and millions of other live in such fantasies and believe it to be reality? Such people are the spiritual BLIND AND DEAD.

s: > If so what's in it for people that follow you?

rk: I have no organization. I seek no followers. I merely communicate Truth and let the devil take the hindmosts. It exposes the hell on earth like nothing else on the Internet.

s: > What do you have to offer?

rk: Are you that unaware that you don't even know what your are reacting to, i.e., you perception of an unclear "Offer." Seems so.

s: > It's best to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove ALL doubt. Mark Twain

rk: Parrotting dead words of dead men, because you have no words of your own is a sure sign of IGNORANCE! Hell, isn't It?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:33 am Reply with quote Back to top

THE NOBODY AND THE SOMEBODY -- THE CHRIST AND THE CHRISTIAN --THE SETUP!!

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Sassisue wrote:

asquared44 wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:

rk: Note: I am combining a few of these responses for clarification purposes.

rk: >> Parrotting dead words of dead men, because you have no words of your own is a sure sign of IGNORANCE! Hell, isn't It?

cnw: > Hell, it certainly is not. I've seen Hell. I walked through Hell and back, sir.. I went beyond the crossroads and the crows lead the way, right to the edge of the desert. Don't you dare come on this forum and call people names. You don't know them and you have certainly not walked a mile in their shoes. You have your story to tell, username Ray, and so do others on this forum.

rk: What is their story. I can't tell by their negative, pejorative one-liner, cheap shots, the only evidence they display about themselves..

cnw: > This forum does not exist solely for you to post your paranoid rantings and insult anyone who asks questions of you. Get it?

cnw: > We are not satanic. We are a community based online bulletin board.

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rk: So you are an administrator of this site, eh? Why do I feel I am being set up? Who have I insulted? Words like "ignorance" "Stupidity" "Unawareness" are not insults if the words on the computer screen which reveal reactions to my balanced but different contributions bare out such limitation of consciousness.

rk: There is no question that I possess a consciousness different from the average man. But then again, so did Jesus of Nazareth.

rk: As a Mirror of Truth, a simple man of Truth, a Christ, I reflect back the spirit of the responses to my Truthful articles to its source. . I characterize that spirit generally to be the Satanic conditioning operating in our civilized human society today. Is the spirit negative? Is it opposing? Is it divisive? Is it argumentative? Is it indicative of all of the ills suffered by civilized society? YOU BET IT IS. Yet you seek to blame the mirror for those whose ignorant, limited actions are reflected.

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New postby sassisue on Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:49 am
s: > Mr. K, Thankyou for your reply to my questions and actually making the reply "reader friendly". I get ya loud and clear. After going to your web site and checking out things, I honestly have to say I personally am not mad at you.You can call me ignorant and you can say I'm satanically conditioned, No Problem. It really don't matter to me because I can't take you seriously. However, I do feel sorry for you and hope things get better for you in your life. It's best to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove ALL doubt. Mark Twain

rk: It appears we have transcended one-liners. Its a start. You don't take me serious. That is your business, not mine. No one has to read my contributions. Those who do, can either respond or not respond to them. That too is their business. But what is the purpose of non-responsive and misdirecting responses to my original articles?

rk: The question remains, why does there exist, such compulsive response to my contributions which ultimately expose the reactors negative intentions and draws attention to themselves via the Mirror of Truth? Is it not the mechanism of Truth in disintegrating satanic illusion which rules over the human intellect?

rk: No one is required to respond to my contributions. Yet, by doing so, reactors lay their souls bare to the world. That is the nature of Spiritual truth operating in a world of Satanic Illusion.

New postby asquared44 on Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:32 am
a: > Heck, I'll throw in a one-liner/question.

a: > When/if I "open my eyes" to this grand scheme you keep referring to, does this mean I'll spend my days filing frivolous lawsuits, blaming everyone else for my problems/self-made mistakes? Oh, and rambling on the internet.

rk: When? If? I perceive, by such qualifications, that you have answered your own question.

rk: Frivolous Lawsuits? I have not filed lawsuits. I possess Non-Judicial, Commercial Judgments. Nothing Frivolous about them. Why not ask your JOSEPHINE COUNTY LEADERSHIP, along with DISTRICT ATTORNEY STEPHEN D. CAMPBELL if they are lawful judgments. Why not ask them to answer under Oath or Affidavit, whether they have JURISDICTION over this Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural man who is not their slave by consent?

rk: It is only IGNORAMUSES who consent to their own enslavement by consent. Sovereign men and women understand their True relationship with their servant government.

a: > I would hope being enlightened would bring something different than whats already happenening , guess not. Sad Wink

PS I believe life is whatever you want it to be.... Obviously Ray seeks out the negative(or at least LOOOOOVES to focus on it)

rk: That is the natural state of any Christ who is on a "Visitor's Pass to Hell" attempting to open the eyes of BLIND BELIEVERS.

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enslave mankind -- INTELLECTUAL THOUGHT!!"

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