IS it just me??? - I am sitting here really racking my head trying to figure out how I can Do more than type words at the moment. While thinking about all of this and listening to clips on the net of interviews and reading blogs, watching videos. I have to ask , Where are t

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:07 pm

I am sitting here really racking my head trying to figure out how I can Do more than type words at the moment. While thinking about all of this and listening to clips on the net of interviews and reading blogs, watching videos. I have to ask , Where are the people like Alex Jones, who are all for whats going on and have some pull as far as listeners to his media.
Why is someone like him not right out there on the front lines. Is he just the voice of Dissent or can he take action.

Another one is Aaron Russo himself. I have see Ed giving reporters copies of his movie, telling them to watch it and ask the questions. Why is he not there. Was this not part of his message. There are plently of others who talk about standing up but when it comes down to it they can't .

In a way I understand this. People have different levels of conviction towards issues. This alone can seperate the talkers and doers. I don't know I guess I am just ranting because I think there should be more of a pressence and more light being cast on this then there is. I really have no room to say some of my thoughts because I am not there myself. I want to be . I am MAD AS HELL. Please don't let me get stopped in one of these dammed license checks by the Police State I mean State Police here in NC this weekend beacuse that m friends will not be a good scene.
Thoughts and wishes are with all that have the Balls and Convictions. Hope to see you soon

Jay

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Aaron Russo is in California fighting cancer at this time. He needs prayers. I know your frustrated, but we need people everywhere, period. And life sometimes does get in the way and limits what we can do at any given time.

Peace!

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:40 pm

Sorry I did not know that about Mr. Russo. But I hope I made my point though.

Let me ask everyone a question.

If Illegal taxing is not your niche, or the thing that gets you all fired up what is?
What instance would leave you with no choice other than to dig in for the long haul, and make you change your life in great ways such as the Brown's have.

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Acclamaid wrote:

Where are the people like Alex Jones, who are all for whats going on and have some pull as far as listeners to his media.
Why is someone like him not right out there on the front lines. Is he just the voice of Dissent or can he take action.

According to Wikipedia, Alex Jones has said he would go to the Browns' property to help defend it if it was attacked.

What is he waiting for?

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Alex likes to discuss problems, not solutions. I'm not going to say anything else.

Indeed, if illegal taxation (or the illegal application of tax statutes) is not your cup of tea, you should remind yourself of September 11th. I do not wish to wait around for the next attack, which will probably be a nuke (or multiple nukes) in cities. No thank you. Let's stop these evil bastards while we still have the chance. I frankly don't see how ANYONE can still try to work within the system after we've seen what the system is capable of on 9/11/01.

Edit: PS -- if you're wondering what you can do, please know that Ed and Elaine badly need supplies right now. They've said it a million times. They've been asking for simple things like candles and rechargeable flashlights. Please read the FAQ on the left. Thanks! http://www.makethestand.com/faq.html

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You have to choose your battles without emotion and with the fortitude and ability to win. Anything else is generally regrettable and or insufficient in achieving your goal. You’ve got to be willing to put it all on the line for your noble cause accepting full responsibility for your actions or don’t engage at all as there’s no such thing as sort of pregnant. Some people choose their battles before organizing an army, or, as in the current presidential administration, they engage an enemy they know little about in a foreign land they can’t identify on a world map and with resources and strategies not yet acquired. Make damn sure you know the ability and influence of your enemy here. Ask yourself if this truly is your battle and if if not then how can you best support the cause spiritually so as not to endanger your life or those of your loved ones.

We are a land of laws, supposedly, but apparently there are those privileged few who feel they’re above all of that both in government and in society. That hubris attitude seems to permeate our federal government more and more nowadays from the top on down and on both sides of the isle, but that doesn’t give you and me Joe citizen impunity to do likewise, notwithstanding the free will to do so and our willingness to accept punishment for crimes committed. A nation without laws is anarchy and, unfortunately, that’s where we are headed in America anymore especially if we ALL adopt that elitist attitude against which we are supposedly fighting, the one that our own government seems to employ.

Change begins within-not without. You will never win a battle against the federal government no matter how hard you try. You and I have empowered them with the financial resources through run-amok taxation, or as I like to say, tax extortion, the impunity to continue their extortion racket, and by virtue of our own apathy, we’ve established a defacto dictatorship which they now use to usurp powers not granted them by our constitution for the continuation of their government syndicate and the capitulation of our freedoms on a grand scale.

Stop voting these criminals in over and over again and organize a body of like minded people who as a group can affect the desired change, but in the meantime, don’t do as they do but do as your conscience directs and in the end you’ll not only retain your dignity but you’ll grow the number of converts to your cause exponentially and your life-years significantly. Don’t get embroiled in battles you can’t fight or win or those that are not yours to begin with. Instead you might direct your energy in prayer for this couple and to God that this doesn’t culminate in yet another Waco or Ruby Ridge and if it does pray that justice is truly served against those responsible for the heinous crimes perpetrated on your fellow man, and woman. Just my 2 pennies worth.

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sheeplefleecer wrote:

You will never win a battle against the federal government no matter how hard you try.

You typed a lot of words but really said nothing. Your words sound the same as the numerous disinformation agents that have already been banned from this site. Your post can be summarized by "Don't do what Ed and Elaine are doing" and "We need to organize, grow numbers, and work within the system to effect change."

This is the message that has been said for decades. This attitude has gotten us where we are now, and will get us deeper if we don't abandon it. The fact of the matter is this battle IS ours. Every time our liberty is taken away, it's our fight. It doesn't matter if it's a law regarding civilian internment camps or mandatory seatbelts.

Our government tortures and kills people all over the world, and on our own land. They steal from us, cheat us, lie to us, and withhold countless secrets from us! They terrorize us in our own land, with terror attacks, false-flag operations, and everything else.

It's time.

If you don't agree, sheeplefleecer, just be gone. As Sam Adams said, "We seek not your council nor your arms."

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:49 pm

[quote=" As Sam Adams said, "We seek not your council nor your arms."[/quote]
Might I add that not only did he have some damm good quotes, he also makes a mighty fine brew.

WOW

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Ok people. If you support the Browns do it. If it weren't for Alex jones most of you'd be clueles that this was even happening so stop the bashing or let me ask why you're not there?

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Shaun wrote:

sheeplefleecer wrote:

You will never win a battle against the federal government no matter how hard you try.

You typed a lot of words but really said nothing. Your words sound the same as the numerous disinformation agents that have already been banned from this site. Your post can be summarized by "Don't do what Ed and Elaine are doing" and "We need to organize, grow numbers, and work within the system to effect change."

This is the message that has been said for decades. This attitude has gotten us where we are now, and will get us deeper if we don't abandon it. The fact of the matter is this battle IS ours. Every time our liberty is taken away, it's our fight. It doesn't matter if it's a law regarding civilian internment camps or mandatory seatbelts.

Our government tortures and kills people all over the world, and on our own land. They steal from us, cheat us, lie to us, and withhold countless secrets from us! They terrorize us in our own land, with terror attacks, false-flag operations, and everything else.

It's time.

If you don't agree, sheeplefleecer, just be gone. As Sam Adams said, "We seek not your council nor your arms."

Well said bro, and thanks for adding me to the site!
Much love to you and the Browns. It is just not possible for me to be there, but I will do whatever I can from here. And I am telling everyone I know what's happening. The thing is we can all help no matter where our location is. I hope my above message doesn't sound bad, but we don't need that negativity on here. This affects us all, so it's time we all stand up. Help however you can, word of mouth, or whatever. Just be peaceful and help!

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The vast majority of Americans couldn't vote themselves out of a paper bag. And just wait until we've got 20 million"legal" aliens voting for whatever democrat they see on TV. They're not even Americans, do you think they'll be voting for things that matter to Americans? Or for a free ride for themselves?

We're in this mess because we've wasted our time constantly voting for the lesser of two evils. The lesser of two evils is still evil. It's time to find other methods.

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Shaun -

Thanks for my subscription to this site which I presume is open to varying ideas and opinions especially those that offer peaceful solutions. My point simply put: we reap the products of own cultivation. We all created this government monster whether by apathy or, as another poster pointed out, by voting the lesser of two evils instead of promoting a viable third party that would put the checks and balances back in government.

You and I can affect change as individuals by employing a number of useful tools that in numbers and volume will have impact. Begin by boycotting the corporatocracy that has your reps dangling from puppet strings at their every whim as is the criminal alien invasion from Mexico that guarantees an inexhaustible supply of cheap slave labor to the agri-business and their congressional cohorts. Stop Buying WalMart garbage for starters and buy locally grown veggies instead of those grown in the California global plantation.

You want to correct about 80%-90% of our socioeconomic problems in America and effectively render these jack-boot bureaucracies useless while restoring power to the people? then start a campaign to abolish the IRS and return the 5% flat tax back into the system that our forefathers established with their blood sacrifice. There are often more strategic methods to fight the madness that don’t involve a .50 cal Barrett and then again sometimes it comes to that with full justification. God bless Ed & Elaine Brown and I pray this battle doesn’t come to a violent fiery conclusion as in Waco but at the end of the day they already lost the battle in court and at this point any loss of life over back taxes is a real travesty.

You ever hear the proverb give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar? FYI - I live really close to the Browns and could be physically involved if I thought it was justified which at this point I don't. They owe Caesar so give em his money and be done with it then go amned the constitution and abolish the IRS etc.

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The solution to all of this is quite simple -- disregard government. If you don't consent to what it's doing, then it isn't YOUR government. You can shed it off easily.

Keep an eye out for disinformation agents on this site. They've popped up before, and may pop up again -- you never know.

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Shaun -

Maybe I signed up to the wrong site if this is a violence only venue. Just say the word and I'll unsubscribe but I truly hope you remain open to peaceful, non-capitulating solutions and ideas, God bless.

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sheeplefleecer, have you watched the video America: Freedom to Fascism by Aaron Russo? I do not believe you have otherwise you would not have made a statement like they owe Caesar the money so give it to him and be done with it!!! That is just the point......there is no law that says you have to pay Income Tax. Then there are two wonderful books The creature from Jekyll Island and The Law that never was. Also you can read Jose Banister on the net. He was an IRS Agent who researched the law for two years and resigned when he could find none. He also stopped paying taxes and won in Court. However they are back at him again.

I, like you, would love to see a non-violenent solution to this situation. However I doubt whether the powers that be will ever allow it. Name me one time in American history the people were treated fairly! They have always had to fight for their rights with unions, protests, on and on.

Less than a hundred years ago look how hard the women had to fight for the vote! That was under a very well educated President Wilson. You can see what happened to these women in Iron Jawed Angels.

While I tighten up still over the possible violence and harm that can come to Ed and Elaine I support their stand. I know that what they are standing up for is much more than taxes. It is our way of life..........freedom. It is a farce to think that the "terrorists" hate us for our freedoms. They hate us for our intervention and stealing of Oil in the region......that has been going on for decades now. Just like Ron Paul stated during the debate! The mobster and enforcer of the NWO Guilliani attacked him for this statement, making a he made a fool of himself!!!

Ron Paul would also get rid of the IRS the first week he was in office if he were elected..........think he has some idea about what these criminals are up to?

I am too old, don't know how to handle guns and would only be in the way in New Hampshire. I am making the stand the only way I know how by supporting them, telling all my friends and calling the authorities daily.

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Ya, hi sheeplefleecer, I think you may be in the right place but your eyes have not been opened. I agree with Maidmarion as to watch Aaron Russo's movie America: Freedom to fascism (directors cut) online for free. If you enjoyed the content of the movie, I recommend watching The Money Masters, and then Zeitgeist, The Movie , all online for free. Try to make sure they are unedited, and bare with the beginning of Zeitgeist as 1st 3 minutes are black screen with audio.

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Great post MaidMarion -

You have some great insight into this contentious issue and make some poignant statements. I’m torn over my support for the Browns because I’m certain that, as you pointed out, the powers that be intend to manifest this to a violent conclusion just like they did in Waco. The past two decades have been a wake up call for me with all the government intrusion in our lives and the insidious and often heinous crimes perpetrated against the American people by those we elect to serve us. It makes me sick to see our country swirling down the toilet as it is under this criminally insane government, however, one couple’s battle with the feds isn’t going to change anything as a friend used to say: you f#@k with the bull you get the horns and as recent history has shown individuals who take on the beast get the horns and their story fades into obscurity shortly thereafter. It’s going to take a revolution of grand proportion, political or otherwise, to stop the beast especially in this Natalee Holloway / Paris Hilton medicated society. Recall that nobody was ever prosecuted for the Waco massacre but for a few of the victim survivors which speaks volumes about how this one will likely play out. Ed & Elaine - please don't waste your lives over this, you've both got so much more to offer.

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The bottom line:

You cannot expect to be free, unless you act like it. Talking about freedom is one thing -- BEING free is another. Ed and Elaine are free. They may be stuck in their house because of criminals outside that wish to harm them, but that doesn't change things. They do not give in; they do not bow down.

Until you take your rightful place as a FREE living, breathing, flesh and blood, sentient, natural man or woman, you will not be free. As long as you acquiesce to government, you are a subject.

Ed and Elaine are setting examples that you may never again see in your lifetime. Perhaps if we stand by them and take action, we may see A LOT of it in the future.

If they were to give into a criminal government, pay them money, surrender themselves to go to jail, or anything else, they would NOT be accomplishing anything. They may be saving their own skins, but what is life if you are only a slave?

Do you understand? I really hope you're just misguided, and you're not another one of those disinformation agents.

P.S. -- none of us want to see Ed and Elaine get hurt. I consider them dear friends of mine, and I care for them so much. As much as I don't want to see them get hurt, neither do I want them to surrender or give in. This is what makes them who they are -- this is what makes them FREE.

How many times must someone hit you with a bat before you lick their boots like a dog? The correct answer is: I don't lick boots.

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Neither do I lick boots nor am I misguided or one of those disinformation agents. Just trying to put a slightly different perspective on what appears to be an otherwise fatal solution. One couple against a well equipped, well protected, well oiled federal bureaucracy seems to be a waste of life that could otherwise be used more effectively in a non-violent course of action. I understand your point "As long as you acquiesce to government, you are a subject" but on the other hand if everyone decided to invoke legal relativism we'd have anarchy, Gee, I don't like red lights so I'm driving right trough at full speed. I think I should have the right to shoot my neighbor's dog when it barks early one morning. Understand my point? As you point out "but what is life if you are only a slave?" The Browns are far from slavery my friend, I would say that Chinese child laborers who work 15 hours a day for $1.35 as indentured servents to satisfy the greedy sell-out corporate slugs in America are slaves. Just seems like such a waste of life and potential for diplomatic solution.

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What would you propose that does not involve the Browns admitting to crimes they didn't commit, giving into a government that is not by their consent, or paying money they don't owe?

I have an idea -- how about the feds just leave the Browns alone?

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Shaun wrote:

I have an idea -- how about the feds just leave the Browns alone?

DITTO!

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The FACT is, there is not law. If there was a law don't you think the courts would bring it out immediately? It does not take a rocket scientist to figure that one out!

The Courts and the US Marshals need to back down and go away. Surely to God their are real criminals running amuck in America that they can go after and use their toys on! They are the true cowards. This show of force that they came in with last Thursday was just that........a way to intimidate and cover up what all the past administrations and the courts have been doing since 1913. Because people were so frightened they got away with it.

Ed was right when he called upon the American people to stop paying their Income Tax! If just a small percentage more stop paying because of Ed and Elaine's stand we could bring them to their knees without a shot being fired.

SHEARCH YOU HEART, DO THE RESEARCH AND COME TO YOUR OWN CONCLUSION ABOUT PAYING INCOME TAX. Also know that they can come after you and your family and hurt you and your way of life.

THAT IS ALL ONE NEEDS TO ASK. ALSO LET'S ASK THE US MARSHALS TO DO THE SAME. THIS AFFECTS THEM TOO. CAN THEY REALLY SHOOT AND KILL THEIR OWN COUNTRY MEN AND WOMEN? I DO NOT THINK SO, AND I HOPE I AM NOT WRONG! Some of this money does go in to defense. What are we really defending Exonmobile in Iraq for David Rockefeller and his elk. Then to have Halliburton make trillions by war profiteering and now moving to Dubai????????? JUST WHO ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO BE DEFENDING US MARSHALS???????

Is it now the time for Monier to go to his superiors and refuse to have himself and his men involved in these criminal acts against innocent people? Monier's whole career will be defined by what action he takes against Ed and Elaine Brown. He was appointed by George W. Bush who is one of the least respected Presidents in the history of the USA. His neocon philosophy and facist stance of Globalization is contrary to the American Constitution. Why do you think he has bought 42,000 acres in Paraguay? He will be looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life because of his and Cheney's decisions. History will not deal with him kindly!!!!

It is not quite true to say that those who had a hand in Waco did not suffer the consequences. Many did, careerwise and in many other ways. I do not believe that any of the men with the exception of one of the snipers, were not very adversely affected by the burning and killing of these women, and children.......all Americans.

While I do not adhear to the philosophy of the Dividiens. There is no question in my mind that other less violent methods could have been used, such as the gas that Ed suggested in his Video. Again, I feel that they were sacrificed as a show of force about what the Government could do! This Government is For, By, and Of the people!!!! Somehow many of our Administrations have forgotten about the constitution and are now running wild!

No matter what we have got to take the country back from the multinational corporations who operate beyond the law and make it a Country that abides by the Constitution. Ed and Elaine are sincerely trying to do that by making this first stand against the Criminal IRS.

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I'm pretty certain how all this will turn out given the record of these criminal government bureaucrats and their MP-5 sporting jack-boot minions i.e. Waco et-al, if negotiations don't commence real soon. Just hope there's enough IR video evidence from all angles for the criminal prosecution following the armed raid. I believe there's still hope for a non-violent resolution through negotiation. Negotiation isn't capitulation when both sides agree to bring something to the table. At this point Ed & Elaine have a good civil rights case against the Marshals as a viable bargaining chip. Get enough public exposure and this thing can be resolved peaceably and probably to the Brown's greater advantage. Keep up the violent rhetoric and pig headed positions on both sides and you'll witness the expected result. Ed & Elaine can win more converts to their cause by taking the high road of negotiation than they ever will from the grave after a blood bath with the feds.

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Correction should be David Rockefeller and his ilk.........actually I like the typo slip elk..........he reminds me of an animinal........but then again such an insult to the animinal!!!!

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Sheeplefleecer, I too would love to see some kind of resolution that would be non-violent.

I believe it would be to question the courts authority about VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE to pay Income Tax.

I feel that government and the courts have changed that to FORCEABLE COMPLIANCE, otherwise why show up at people's business and homes with such force? THAT IS ANTI-AMERICAN AND AGAINST EVERY PRINCIPAL OF THE CONSTITUTION!

JUST WHO ARE THE CRIMINALS HERE?

How can there ever be any sembelence of fairness in any negotiations with these people, when they are willing to sentence people to 5 years in jail and they can not quote a law that the Browns have broken? THAT IS THE INSANITY OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED HERE!

Judge McAulliff (?) needs to be investigated by the people of New Hampshire for his heavy handed tactics during this case. He is a political appointee. He can be removed from the bench and he can also be disbared! It would be interesting if the people of New Hampshire were willing to start an investigation and hold this judge responsible for his actions!

I am sure there are attorneys right there in New Hampshire who know how this Judge acts in his courtroom and who would just love to come forth........maybe a whole bunch of them.........just a thought............

This whole thing can be turned around in 48 hours without anyone taking one shot........if there is just one man with some kind of integrity who will say that is enough of this nonsense!!! Let's give the Browns and honest hearing without dismissing every point of evidence they wanted to present........what kind of justice is that? IS THAT THE KIND OF JUSTICE THAT THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO PUT UP WITH?????? I DON'T THINK SO!!!

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sheepfleecer, I am once again almost at a loss of words.

sheepfleecer wrote:

Keep up the violent rhetoric and pig headed positions on both sides and you'll witness the expected result.

Could you please explain this statement? I haven't seen the Browns use any "violent rhetoric" or "pig headed positions"

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I would say that inviting someone into the fray with a .50 caliber Barrett then plastering such images around various blogs like this one combined with establishment propaganda media coverage showing armored vehicles and M-16 & MP-5 carrying agents hovering around the Brown's property would be considered "violent rhetoric" on both sides. NO LIFE IS WORTH TAX CONTENTION, EVASION, INJUSTICE, or however one wishes to characterize it, NEGOTIATION should be paramount ON BOTH SIDES. Clue, the federal government ALWAYS wins these battles, look at recent history. You'll need to change government before changing the tax code and that my friend doesn't come from the barrel of a gun but from the well of a pen through the voice of a well reasoned, constitutionally sound majority. In the meantime, render to Caesar, the one we elected, what belongs to Caesar and save your patriotism for the defense of our sovereignty that our Caesar is about to capitulate to a turd world invasion.

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Ed and Elaine are not trying to change the tax code. They are quite content with what it says. It is the MISAPPLICATION of this tax code, the lies, the deception, and the coercion and violence that they are against. They are against applying a CORPORATE EXCISE TAX to the general American public. They are against slavery.

You seem to think that life is the only thing that matters, no matter what the cost of that life is. I would rather die than live my life in jail, in chains, or working for world powers and their evil corporate interests.

You say they should negotiate...negotiate WHAT? You would have the Browns compromise on what is morally correct? You would have them surrender and go to jail? What exactly are you saying they should do?

I'm just curious why you came here -- you don't seem to be talking about FREEDOM. You seem more interested in security. Security is a good thing -- I would suggest you buy guns. If you wish to purchase your security at the price of chains and slavery, then you are truly a damned soul.

It matters not how strong your opponent is, except in games. If you are fighting for what is right, the battle is always just, and you've got more strength on your side than any number of paid mercenary soldiers.

CLUE, we outnumber the tyrants 10,000:1. Who SHOULD win this one?

If you don't start making sense, I'm going to have to conclude that you didn't come here for the right reasons. Perhaps if you spoke to me on the phone I could get through to you?

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:20 am

sheeplefleecer; the federal government ALWAYS wins these battles

They will continue to win these battles until we the people stand up and say no more! You must understand that there is a difference between constitutional law and statutes and codes by different branches of government. Do your research and you will find that the IRS is not any part of our government.
I say that when the eyes of our fellow countrymen are upon these thugs and we speak out as the people at this site and others have,by calling the public servants and remind them of the duties of their offices,we can make a difference when these injustices are taking place. This is our best option at this time,until enough people are awakened to the truth.
I do not condone violence either, I think that we have to take back our country just as the communist took it away from us "without firing a shot."
This has been accomplished through a corrupt monetary system with corrupt politicians at the end of the purse strings.We have to hit them in the pocketbook. First,we must quit feeding the very beast that is eating us. We must form a group ,such as this,who will answer the call when needed.
When one of our fellow humanbeings is being attacked,we must act.To remain silent and without action is to condone the attack.
I hope that when my turn comes,there will people to call on for their support. It is said ,if one fears death they are not living. What I have learned in my fifty-one years, is not to fear death for it is the doorway to the next part of my journey.I as the Browns would prefer this option compared to prison.
"It is better to die knowing the truth, than live in the ignorance of fear."
William Givens 2007
I for one, am not a sheep to be fleeced and led to the slaughter by the church or any government.

William Givens
The Sovereign State of South Carolina

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Ed & Elaine - Shaun - Maidmarion - WJEG - everyone taking a stand here; THANK YOU !

Taking a stand with the Brown’s is a noble and just position worthy of defending to the death if necessary as this truly is a fight for liberty and justice against a run-amok tyrannical government that no longer represents and serves the people.

The criminal hubris of these reprobates in Washington can’t be overlooked anymore and is no more obvious than the rendering of U.S. working class taxpaying American citizens to irrelevancy as slaves beneath the millions of criminal alien parasites that pour in across our open borders to the tax trough while our sovereignty is pimped out like a cheap Tijuana crack whore by the empty suits we were duped into electing.

It’s a nightmarish antithesis of American justice as Ed & Elaine are vilified like heinous criminals worthy of arrest by armored battalions for a five year sentence in a federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison for a non-violent violation of a law that doesn’t exist while George Bush, Ted Kennedy, Trent Lott, John McCAIN et-al work feverishly in the cloak of secrecy dissolving our sovereignty in an attempt to reward 30 million illegal aliens, many of whom are convicted gang members, rapists, murderers and violent offenders, and their 100 million non-U.S. non-assimilating family members, with citizenship and rights that superceded our own in thee most abject act of treason ever perpetrated against the American people.

We are in a defacto dictatorship run by a two party crime family headed by global corporate Dons under the management of various acronymic enforcement bureaucracies and their S.W.A.T. adorned MP-5 sporting jack-boot lieutenants, none of which is constitutionally sound nor in compliance with the founding principles of our republic. We are facing the fight of our lives for the sustenance of our sovereignty and the preservation of liberty as these criminally insane pols work like rodents in grandmas hope chest shredding the very fabric of our freedom through judicial activism and compulsory tax extortion.

It’s out of control anymore and a principled stand must be taken against it by those who truly desire the salvation of our republic from the clutches of tyranny. Thank God for Ed & Elaine and all those willing to put everything on the line for our constitutional freedom as I’ll concede not having what it takes to do likewise but am hoping and praying for sufficient inspiration and guidance to find such inner strength before it’s too late.

Just remember, cooler heads always prevail and strength in numbers through NON-violent offensive strategy. As an American patriot once said: “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” And “A man wrapped up in himself makes a very small bundle.” Ben Franklin
God Bless