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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:46 am Reply with quote Back to top

DISINFORMATION AGENTS: The Names Keep Changing, but the Same Agents Continue their Libelous Campaign.

From: Chad Stone <chadwickstone> [Add to Address Book]
To: arkent3@earthlink.net
Subject: A few brief remarks
Date: Jan 23, 2008 8:04 AM
Hello Ray,

Although you probably do not welcome email from me, in light of some
upcoming changes in my life, I felt compelled to write.

That I have been rude, harsh, and disrespectful of you is an
understatement. Please understand that although I have uttered nary a
kind word to you in public venues, my demeanor on Usenet has been
largely posturing (as I am certain you realize) and I have never borne
you true malice or wished harm to you.

It may surprise you to learn that although I disagree with much of
what you have to say, especially your presentation, you do advance one
fundamental argument with which I heartily agree. The notion of
sovereignty, a concept carefully and deliberately crafted into the
U.S. Constitution... not the personal sovereignty of which you speak,
but the national sovereignty of which the founding fathers spoke. A
government of and by The People, not accountable to foreign bodies or
interests.

Be that as it may, you have written on a number of occasions that you
have received no support, that your audience doesn't, can't, and won't
get it, so logically, it is a waste of time to write without regard to
context and the legitimacy of said context. Perhaps it is time to
concentrate on insuring your and your wife's golden years are
comfortable and enjoyable. Your elder years are an opportunity, not
an end, don't waste it.

You understand by now that Usenet (and the Internet in general) is
vastly wild and untamed with gentle points few and far between. I do
not apologize for my words any more than you would apologize for
yours.

I leave you with a free hint, you asked to be shown the law (regarding
taxation), I give you the Sixteenth Amendment. Government doesn't pay
you (Josephine County and Oregon are not going to pay you, and I'm
sure you probably realize that), you pay the government.

Now I leave you in peace. A great opportunity awaits and like all
opportunities, it comes with a price... my own precious time.

I wish you and your wife well, Ray, sincerely.


rk: CHADWICK STONE RETURNS UNDER ANOTHER ALIAS

christsonunicycles@gmail.com

Subject: Re: Are The American People That Dumb?
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 13:36:21 -0800 (PST)


raymondkarczewski whined:

> Look at the number of responses to my articles on this and other
> forums

Awwwwwwwwwwww, poor baby!

> . They do tell a story.

How tragic for you, yet comedic for us Surprised)

> They tell the story of those who live in fear.

Are you living in fear? When you post I live in fits of laughter Surprised)

> They tell the story of those easily distracted by "bread and
> circuses."

IOW when standing in line at the bread line, your themesong is "Send
in the Clowns" Surprised)

> They tell the story of those who cannot make a decision for
> themselves, but require the advice of experts and comfort of committee
> thought.

I have decided you are an assclown on self imposed public display.
That required only a bit of personal initiative, a few laughs at your
silliness, and not one scintilla of expert thoughtspeak Surprised)

> They tell the story of those who don't have a glimmer of the
> meaning of the state of being called "self-responsibility."

How did you ever fit such a comfortable armchair through the beaten in
door of that trailer?

> Ed and Elaine Brown of New Hampshire now sit in prison because you
> were so enthralled by the fun and games of idle talk you engaged in
> while they were fighting for their freedom. You vicariously
> identified with them, but YOU WERE NOT THEM.

Who were you? WHERE were you? Ah, now I remember, you were sitting
comfortably in your armchair, snorting cocaine, sucking down booze,
railing at the rest of the world for not doing what you were too
cowardly and lazy to do yourself. Can you say "hypocrisy?"

> You folks haven't got a clue as to the reality which awaits you
> while you codependent idle talkers schmooze each other to death about
> how brave you will be when the time comes for you to act.

How ironic. How many years have you talked and schmoozed about your
own brand of knock kneed bravery?

> You people are pathetic. You deserve what is coming down upon you.

Just like your smokestacked corpsewife deserves to be slowly sucked up
your nose, as a cut to the drugs that inspired you to beat her to
death. Yeah, I saw the picture.

> Are you angry with these comments? Did I touch a Boo Boo? Just
> what the hell does it take for anyone to WAKE YOU MUNCHKINS UP, you
> dreamers who fantasize but CANNOT ACT!!

I typically wake up to the sound of an alarm clock and without a head
aching from substance abuse. How do you feel when you come to after a
day of booze and cocaine?

> Let me clue you in. By your behavior, YOU DON'T DESERVE FREEDOM
> in your lifetime for you repeatedly demonstrate that you are able only
> to muster up the feeble reactions of resentful slaves. ALL SHOW AND
> NO GO!

Watch out for that mirror Surprised)

> Let me ask you, why do you fear your public servants?. Why do you
> fear judges. District Attorneys, Cops? WHY???

We law abiding folk have no reason to fear them, you on the other
hand . . . . .

> If America is indeed a Land of Law, then ACT LIKE IT. FORCE your
> public servants to do their job or FIRE THEM.

Mine do their job. I sent a letter of appreciation the last time you
were arrested and hauled off to the pokey Surprised) I'll send another upon
your next arrest Surprised)

> Sovereign People ARE THE LAW, they have always been the law. .
> What you have created, you can uncreate. Ed and Elaine sit in jail
> because our public servant government will not SHOW US THE LAW, that
> has convicted them.

Yet you have done nothing to FORCE YOUR PUBLIC SERVANTS TO RELEASE
THEM. How lazy and apathetic Surprised)

> MY question of JURISDICTION over Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-
> Blood, Sentient, Natural Men and Women goes to the very heart of
> FREEDOM in this land. The question remains: Are you Sovereign, or
> are you a Slave?

I am a citizen, as are you. I obey the law, UNLIKE you and your
felonious cohorts Ed & Elaine. Example: I and many others do not
descrate the ashes of their smokestacked corpsewife, do not use
illegal drugs, do not molest our pet dogs, do not get drunk and shoot
mannequins, do not file fraudulent documents, etc, etc, etc. YOU DO.

> If you are an example of the American public at large, you can
> KISS your Constitutional Republic Goodbye.

Cite your example of successfully FORCING YOUR PUBLIC SERVANTS TO
RELEASE THOSE FELONS ED AND ELAINE FROM THEIR LAWFUL INCARCERATION.
For all your wailing they are still right where the government stuffed
them.

> If you are not, and you can show that I am wrong in my assessment
> of your past behavior, then you have my apology. But at this point,
> it appears that you haven't go a snowball's chance in Hell of doing
> that.

Please detail your own successful exploits during your tenure of
tilting at windmills [signing a parole contract with the state doesn't
count.]

<Idle>

> Then do what you're going to do. Rise up in a groundswell of
> public pressure TO "SHOW US THE LAW" in Ed and Elaine's Case AND
> "PROVE YOUR JURISDICTION." in my case. Your future depends on it.
> I'll not beg you to preserve you freedom. You will get what you
> deserve.

It's called the 14th Amendment. The one that empowered Congress to
pass laws which were used to incarcerate your felonious scofflaw
consorts is called the 16th. HAND Surprised)

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