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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 4:21 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Ed Brown 03923-049
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Hello Ed.

Well here we are! Didn't turn out as I expected, and I'm sure as hell it didn't turn out like you and Elaine expected. I hope you have recovered from your earlier treatment by the Feds, Tazers and such, and have found a semblance of sanity in what is happening with you at the present time.

Face it, Ed, you and I seemed to have been the only two sane, clear-sighted individuals in this "nation gone bonkers" who would put themselves on the line as individuals in order to bring Justice and True Government back into our lives. The rest are caught up in "group thought," acting according to their social conditioning.

The movement "of Show Us the Law", "Show Us Your Jurisdiction" by millions of awakening people standing alone as individuals and asserting their God-given Sovereignty across our nation has lost its spirit; yes, I would even go so far as to say, it has even lost its will to live. They are the "talkabouts", unwhole (unholy) satanistic controlled minions living a life of fantasy, believing it -- the fantasy, the illusion -- to be Truth, the real. They're the looky-lookies who observe life from a distance, hoping, wishing, praying they will be kept safe from the viciousness they see unfolding all around them.

The show has gone downhill since your being kidnapped by the Corporate serving feds. You were the people's Savior, their champion and their savior, their champion has been taken prisoner.

Fred, Tim, and John Stadtmiller, in my estimation have used you, have exploited you, have betrayed you from the get go. Not altogether through designed intent but through complicit unawareness. They are not aware of the deadly game they play with the lives of others.

Now that you and Elaine are out of sight, they have used the program as a platform to ballyhoo Ron Paul for president. They wouldn't recognize the real solution to the problem of Attack on Freedom if it snuck up behind them and BIT THEM IN THE ASS.

Freedom lies in the hearts, minds, and souls of the Individual who is clear sighted, and not compromised by Satanic Thinking, Satanic Conditioning.

How many people like that do you know, you've met in your lifetime, Ed? RBN and its dynamic Trio are now acting like hysterical children at the sound of Ron Paul's name. The straw hats, the banners, the hoopla, all the silly shit that accompanies political campaigns, while thousands of our boys and girls are dying oversees in the various wars these straw hatted minion worshipped leaders have forced them into.

Now they, the Corporate Government, have turned their attention on their real enemy, THE SOVEREIGN AMERICAN FREE MAN AND WOMAN, THEIR MASTERS, THE PEOPLE. All the rest has been laying preparations for the final assault on human life in America and elsewhere, by these Satanic money and law controllers.

NOBODY GETS IT. NOBODY GOT IT, except for me, thee, and Elaine. We three asserted our Sovereignty, while a world of slaves look on to watch the spectacle and its outcome, thanking God it wasn't them the Goverment was coming after.

Despite it all, Ed, you and Elaine remained True to your Principles, your love of God, you stood tall and offered miserable slaves an opportunity to observe what a True Man and Woman of God looks and behaves like. By the way Ed, I am sticking this up on Make the Stand Forum. Maybe it'll do some good.

Anita gives you both, her best.

I am proud to call you and Elaine my friends, my Brother and Sister.

Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
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Cave Junction [97523]
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:20 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Ray wrote:
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Despite it all, Ed, you and Elaine remained True to your Principles, your love of God, you stood tall and offered miserable slaves an opportunity to observe what a True Man and Woman of God looks and behaves like.



Just would like to add that it was great to yet once again see so called heroes of the American Patriot movement fizzle out without a fight. It just goes to show the true heart of America is nothing but a bunch of fearful cowards.

I am sure this will probably be my last post that is allowed on here so I'm letting the whole wang hang free on this one.

To have Freedom you must earn it. I do not mean the few I mean everyone. You, your children, and your grand children. So on and so forth for eons. Every generation must demand and fight for their birthright of freedom. Freedom is only cherished when you have fought to keep it.

With freedom comes great responsibility. That responsibility not only extends to staying within ones rights and respect for others, but also the responsibility to maintain that freedom for future generations.

Ed and Elaine for instance like many others before them stated they would fight to their death for the ability to be free. While they obviously made bad choices regarding security measures it was still their choice to do that. When it came down to it in the final seconds we found out what so called true patriots are made of. Go on here come the hecklers. I cannot call them true patriots because true patriots really put their life on the line. As I remember several of them signed the Declaration of Independence and many more fought beside General Washington in the middle of winter while plagued with diseases and hunger and some without clothes knowing their last days would be spent fighting for your freedom.

Men, Women, and Children alike all play unique roles in our fight for freedom. Everyone has a quality and skill they can share. We must not fight amongst ourselves over spy's and infiltrators. We must move forward and the truth of freedom will guide us. The fight for true freedom must first be won from within. We must not be careful. We must have the courage like that of a mother protecting her baby from a huge poisonous spider when she is scared of them herself. Let the fear leave you and freedom will light the way. Once you conquer the fear from within you must forge your own battle which will pave the way for a stronger and deeper fight... a revolution.

"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them... We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.— That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness...

all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpation's, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security... And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor." -- Declaration of Independence (1776)


Ray is one of these few modern day true patriots.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:45 am Reply with quote Back to top

I would also like to add the Shaun and his wife Lana and many others that have taken a stand with action and not only words are true patriots also.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:13 am Reply with quote Back to top

No one can walk in another's shoes.

It's a delicate balance imo, as violence the international bankers and their backers can easily handle and it feeds their fire. It also makes it obvious like a bright orange flag which ones to eliminate, detain, or arrest. Ray mentioned in the past about guerilla warefare by individuals, without any one else knowing about it, then like a chameleon changing back to 'When in Rome, do as the Romans' (not exact quote), into society.

With simple revolutionary techniques as simple as 'empathy', such as the concrete model outlined by 'Nonviolent Communication' by Marshall Rosenberg, it can amazingly, shockingly defuse violent behavior and thinking. Just as a couple examples: Being used with a 'leader' of a violent gang, the 'gang leader' ended up saying something like 'what did you do back there to me?' and ended up helping Marshall. With two warring groups that had been fighting for years, brought together in a room after hundreds had been killed, one leader said something like,'If we can communicate this way, we wouldn't have to fight.' Given the right environment between two people, people naturally heal themselves without effort. Most violence is out of reactionary group think from gradual, deep mind control; amazingly simple ways can cut through that mind control to reconnect to life-serving actions naturally.
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